What are the steps for using natural deduction in logic?

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The discussion focuses on the application of natural deduction in logic, specifically addressing the challenges faced when attempting to derive conclusions from premises using 'for all' elimination. The user has identified their premises and is seeking guidance on how to initiate a subderivation with an appropriate assumption. They express uncertainty regarding the validity of their inference and the strategy needed to reach the conclusion effectively.

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Can anyone lead me off here? I've broken down the three premises using 'for all' elimination, now I need to start a subderivation with an assumption, but I'm not sure what!

Right now I'm unsure of the strategy I need to use to get to the conclusion, what do I want to be left with to manipulate into the conclusion?

Would be grateful for any help!

A list of the inference rules I have learned so far for Natural deduction can be found HERE
 
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I've reduced the problem to the above, if I can prove the above then I can prove the whole thing! (I think..!)

Any help on this one? Thanks :)
 
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Apparantly my above inference isn't valid so I cannot proceed with this method

My initial assumption is assuming P(a,b) & P(b,a)

Really stuck, would appreciate help!

Thanks
 

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