What are the steps for using Integration by Parts to evaluate an integral?

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The discussion revolves around the use of Integration by Parts to evaluate various integrals, including those involving logarithmic and trigonometric functions. Participants are exploring the application of this technique in different contexts.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants share their attempts at applying Integration by Parts to specific integrals, questioning the correctness of their choices for functions f and g. Some express uncertainty about finding anti-derivatives, particularly for logarithmic functions.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of different approaches to the integrals presented. Some participants have resolved their misunderstandings regarding specific integrals, while others continue to seek clarification on the correct application of Integration by Parts and the handling of logarithmic functions.

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Participants note the importance of correctly identifying functions and their derivatives in the context of Integration by Parts. There is also mention of potential confusion regarding the integration of logarithmic functions and the use of integration tables.

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Homework Statement


#1.
Use Integration by parts to evaluate the integral
[tex]\int 2x \ln(2x) dx[/tex]

#2.
Use Integration by parts to evaluate the integral
[tex]\int (\ln(3x))^{2} dx[/tex]

#3.
Use Integration by parts to evaluate the integral
[tex]\int x e^{4x} dx[/tex]

#4.
Evaluate the indefinite integral.
[tex]\int \sin(3x) \sin(11x) dx[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


#1.
[tex]\int fg'\ = fg - \int f'g\[/tex]
f=2x f'=2
g'=ln(2x) g=1/2x
[tex]\int fg'\ = \frac {2x}{2x}\ - \int \frac{2}{2x}\\[/tex]
= 1 - ln|x| + C
I think I went wrong finding the anti-derivative of ln(2x). Would g(x) be 1/2 * 1/2x instead?

#2.
[tex]\int (\ln(3x))^{2} dx[/tex]
Make both f(x) and g'(x) = ln(3x)?
I think I'm getting this question wrong because I don't know the anti-derivative of ln(3x).

#3.
[tex]\int x e^{4x} dx[/tex]
f=x f'=1
g'=e^4x g = 1/4 e^4x
= [1/4 * x * e^4x - 1/4 * e^4x] + C

#4.
[tex]\int \sin(3x) \sin(11x) dx[/tex]
[tex]1/2 \int \cos(3x-11x) - \cos(3x+11x) dx[/tex]
[tex]1/2 \int \cos(-8x) - \cos(14x) dx[/tex]
[tex]1/2 [\sin(-8x) - \sin(14x)] dx[/tex]

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong here.
Does sin(-8x) - sin(14x) = -sin(6x)?
 
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#1

d/dx (x^2.ln(x)) = 2x.lnx + x

integrate both things, and I find this way the easiest#2

you would find anti-derivative for ln(3x) from the integration table. You probably will have that during your exam too

#3

I forgot the technique but I don't think your one is right, differentiate it
the answer should be '1/16*(-1+4*x)*exp(4*x)' figure out how to reach there ...

#4

[tex] 1/2 \int \cos(-8x) - \cos(14x) dx<br /> [tex] <br /> is not equal to your final answer. You forgot to take care of constants. and cos(-a) = cos(a)<br /> <br /> "Does sin(-8x) - sin(14x) = -sin(6x)? "<br /> x = 1 <br /> does Does sin(-8*1) - sin(14*1) = -sin(6*1)??[/tex][/tex]
 
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#1.
Not sure how that way works. But can you confirm if the following are correct:
f=2x f'=2
g'=ln(2x) g=1/(2x)

#2.
The anti-derivative for ln(3x) = 1/3x?
f=ln(3x) f'=(1/x)
g'=ln(3x) g=?

#3. SOLVED
I did something wrong when first trying this question. I didn't integrate e^4x properly so i missed the 1/4.
so [tex]\frac {(4x-1)*e^{4x}}{16}[/tex] was my final answer after simplifying from [tex]\frac {x}{4} e^{4x} - \frac {1}{16} e^{4x}[/tex].
Thanks rootX.

#4. SOLVED
I totally forgot about taking care of the constants. Thank you rootX. Final answer is 1/2 * 1/8 [sin(8x)] - 1/2 * 1/14 [sin(14x)].
 
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no.. d/dx(ln(x)) = 1/x not the integral check your integration table

Editing over.
 
#5.
Use integration by parts to evaluate the definite integral.
[tex] \int t e^{-t} dt[/tex]

Is the following correct?
f = t f' = 1
g' = [tex]e^{-t}[/tex] g = [tex]-e^{-t}[/tex]

[tex]-t e^{-t} ]^{1}_{0} - [e^{-t}]^{1}_{0}[/tex]

Solved Thanks Rocomath.
 
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Yes, keep going!

Also, stick to "t", you used x for f.
 
irok said:
#1.
Not sure how that way works. But can you confirm if the following are correct:
f=2x f'=2
g'=ln(2x) g=1/(2x)

#2.
The anti-derivative for ln(3x) = 1/3x?
f=ln(3x) f'=(1/x)
g'=ln(3x) g=?

http://math2.org/math/integrals/more/ln.htm

I don't think you need to know that.
 
Cool, at first I didn't understand why it didn't matter if ln(2x) or ln(kx). Now I'm all cleared up! Thank you again rootX
 
irok said:
Cool, at first I didn't understand why it didn't matter if ln(2x) or ln(kx). Now I'm all cleared up! Thank you again rootX

I thought you are messing derivatives with integration

as int(ln(x)) = 1/x ...
 
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#2.
[tex]\int (ln(3x))^{2} dx[/tex]

I'm still stuck on this one.

Do I use [tex]\int ln(3x) ln(3x)[/tex] and f=ln(3x) g'=ln(3x)

or

[tex]\int (ln(3x))^{2}[/tex] and f=ln(3x)^{2} g'=1
 
  • #11
irok said:
#2.
[tex]\int (ln(3x))^{2} dx[/tex]

I'm still stuck on this one.

Do I use [tex]\int ln(3x) ln(3x)[/tex] and f=ln(3x) g'=ln(3x)

or

[tex]\int (ln(3x))^{2}[/tex] and f=ln(3x)^{2} g'=1

try

f = [ln(3x)]^2 and g'=x

d/dx (x.[ln(3x)]^2 )= [ln(3x)]^2 + ..

I am not familar with that your notations, I never tried to learn them
 
  • #12
rootX said:
try

f = [ln(3x)]^2 and g'=x

d/dx (x.[ln(3x)]^2 )= [ln(3x)]^2 + ..

I am not familar with that your notations, I never tried to learn them

I ended up with [tex]x(ln3x)^{2} - 2\int ln(3x)[/tex]

u = [tex](ln(3x))^{2}[/tex] du = [tex]2 ln(3x) \frac {1}{x}[/tex]

Not sure how to integrate ln(3x). I know integral of ln(x) is xln(x)-x+C. Still not sure what to do when it's ln(3x). I am now assuming any integration of ln(kx) is 1/x
 
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  • #13
[tex]\ln A + \ln B = \ln (AB)[/tex]
 

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