What can I do to learn more about the life of a scientist?

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The discussion centers around the experiences and challenges of becoming a scientist, particularly in the field of physics. Participants explore the motivations for pursuing a scientific career, the financial aspects of being a scientist, and the nature of scientific work and research.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to become a scientist but is confused about how to enter the field and whether physics is the only viable path.
  • Another participant clarifies that anyone studying a science, including physics, chemistry, or biology, can be considered a scientist.
  • Some participants suggest that pursuing a PhD is a common route to becoming a scientist, leading to paid research positions.
  • There is a viewpoint that many scientists are motivated by passion rather than financial gain, with some emphasizing that research is a labor of love.
  • Concerns are raised about the financial stability of scientists, with discussions on how most scientists are employed in academia or research institutions, where they receive salaries regardless of discoveries.
  • One participant humorously suggests that scientists might need to clone themselves to succeed, while others note the importance of hard work and dedication.
  • A participant expresses concern about the necessity of applying for grants, questioning whether this detracts from actual research work.
  • Another participant recommends visiting universities or reading biographies of scientists to gain insight into their lives and challenges.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that passion for science is crucial, but there are differing views on the financial aspects and the nature of work in scientific fields. Some express concern about the emphasis on grant applications, while others highlight the fulfillment that comes from pursuing scientific research.

Contextual Notes

Participants express various assumptions about the financial realities of being a scientist, the nature of research work, and the motivations for entering scientific fields. There is a recognition that the experience of being a scientist can differ significantly based on individual circumstances and institutional support.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals considering a career in science, particularly those interested in physics, as well as for students seeking to understand the realities of scientific research and the life of a scientist.

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I love all aspects of science. But, I like physics more than bio, chemistry etc. Being a scientist is my basic goal however I can't express my desire b'coz it will seem like I am bragging or something.
But, the main problem is that I don't know how to enter the field. Being a physicist is the only major I can see which can take me to become a scientist. It is true?
Also, $ is the problem. In other careers u get paid according to work or time. But, if u r a scientist how can u get paid until u find something?
Do they get paid even if they r just messing with stuff?!

It's like, the field I am most interested in is the field I am most confused about! :confused:
 
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All a scientist is is someone who studies science. Physics, chemistry, biology are all sciences so anyone who studies those fields, amonsts others, is a scientist. Each field studies a different thing so you'd choose depending on what field you enjoy.
 
To enter the field, you go to college, and major in physics (if you want to be a physicist). Then you can either find a job in industry (if you're a wuss), or you can go on and get your PhD. Once you have a PhD, you can get paid to do research (either by industry or academic oriented groups).
 
I think most scientists do not become scientists for the money. They dedicate their life to science because it is what they like, and how they can help the world.
 
IMO anyone going into science for money is in the wrong field. Research is a labor of love really.

It seems like you think scientists only get paid by the discovery? No, that's not how it works. Most work as professors, some work in National Labs for example, where they get paid to do research work, regardless of what they find.
 
Two neat things about science - and research in particular:
1) It's a lot of fun - the world is a huge crossword puzzle, and you can fill in a few of the blanks...
2) You can get paid to go to graduate school! You have to be fairly bright, of course, or else just normally intelligent and be willing to work hard. Much like anything else in the world, come to think of it.

Also, you can make a lot of money at it, also two ways:
1) Set up your own lab, make a brilliant invention, develop it yourself and make a gazillion dollars.
2) Buy a lottery ticket. This has a much better chance of making money than #1, and besides, you can still work in industry or academia for a regular paycheck while you're waiting.
 
To become a scientists, you first have to train yourself properly in a field of study. Having done this, you have to either clone yourself or reproduce asexually. It's hard, but don't worry, we only went through a half dozen non-viable clones before we achieved our goal.
 
hahaha. Thats jokes!
 
Guys, I don't think he was asking if you make a lot of money being a scientist, it seemed more like he was confused as to whether scientists made ANY money
 
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Yah i don't think he knows about research institutions, industry, and universities. I think he thinks scientists are like inventors who work out of their home or something.
 
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Most scientists I know at Universities spend most of their time applying for grants to keep their departments open and fund their research.

Some are lucky and actually get to do a bit of research. But the one thing I hear from all of them is that they get paid to do what they love. I think that's worth more than any amount of money.
 
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Well, science is a lot of work. I work in physics at an academic institution, and I sometimes spend 60+ hours a week working on a project.

You should not go into physics to make money. First, this is not a very good reason. Second, you won't make that much money in physics (if that's your goal, you might want to consider engineering.. although they are not that much better off). Third, be sure that you know what you are getting into. From your questions and preconceptions, I can gather that you are not that familiar with high-level physics and scientific research; it's nothing like the movies. There is no glamour, very few people actually end up knowing what work you are doing, society in general is oblivious to what is being done in your field, and it takes a lot of hard work (more than you think).

In no way is this post meant to discourage you. However, there are many times where you can see University freshmen very enthusiastic about the fact that they are starting a degree in physics, only to have them drop out after a semester because it wasn't what they thought, it was too hard, etc.

Physics is, and always will be, a labour of love.
 
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After reading the replies, I would like to make some things clear, although some other replies did answer my question.
I am not afraid of labor; I know what working with physics is like.
Neither I want to go into that field for making lots of money.
I really like it. I want to dedicate myself to science. I am kind of person who will prefer working for a science fair rather than going to a party.

I think Office_Shredder know what I am asking. I want to know if scientists get enough money to fulfill their general needs.
Evo said "Most scientists I know at Universities spend most of their time applying for grants to keep their departments open and fund their research." Now that's one point I am concerned about. I would think of staying away of the field if I'll have to concentrate on getting grants all the time rather than researching. U know what I mean? Bcoz its like complete waste of every thing. If a person doesn't get such a support then it means that his interest and dedication is of no value. I don't think I want to face that.
Please correct me if I am wrong. Such things are what forcing me to select aerospace engineering (my second choice) rather than being a physicist.
By the way, I thank all of u for support.
 
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Allow me to add something: In my opinion, a good way to get to know what a scientist does is by visiting Universities or reading books. I've done both things and I've learn few but important things about the scientist's life. And one thing is sure: when reading, you'll be fascinated about how they lived, what were their worries, how other scientists didn't agreed with them and they felt disappointed, their peculiar personalities...you will laugh, you will feel alike to a certain scientist and hopefully, you will learn.

I recommend books by authors like Michio Kaku, David Bodanis, etc. as long as you enjoy what you're reading.

I'm not experienced (I'm still very young) and I'll be facing the 'hard work' part soon, so I cannot help you more than this. If your passion is truthful I hope you'll enjoy your life dealing with science and don't expect to discover something because you'll live with the fear of failure. Just enjoy (and work hard). Afterall, we only live once.
 

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