What Career Fits My Passion for Math and Learning?

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The discussion revolves around potential career paths for someone passionate about mathematics and learning, particularly focusing on options suitable for individuals with an undergraduate degree in Mathematics and Statistics. Participants explore various fields, including actuarial science and government jobs, while considering factors like stress levels and job satisfaction.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire for a low-stress job without physical demands and seeks career suggestions.
  • Another suggests looking for government jobs as a potential fit.
  • A participant confirms that government jobs may be available for those with only an undergraduate math degree, noting that availability can vary by location.
  • Actuarial science is proposed as a lucrative field accessible with an undergraduate understanding of calculus and statistics, though it requires passing exams.
  • Questions arise regarding whether actuaries work primarily in government or private sectors, with responses indicating both options exist.
  • Some participants share personal experiences regarding the stress levels associated with actuarial positions, suggesting variability based on the specific field of work.
  • Discussion includes a reference to the civil service in Britain, noting that degree requirements may be flexible but exams can be challenging.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a single career path, as multiple options are discussed, and opinions on stress levels and job satisfaction vary. The discussion remains open-ended with differing perspectives on the suitability of various careers.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention that the availability of jobs may depend on geographic location, and there are references to specific experiences that highlight the variability in job stress and satisfaction within similar fields.

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Individuals pursuing a degree in mathematics or related fields, those exploring career options in actuarial science or government roles, and anyone interested in the relationship between job stress and educational background.

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I'm currently pursuing my undergraduate degree in Mathematics and Statistics.

About me:

I'm really passionate about mathematics. I also like physics and chemistry, though to a much lesser extent. I'm also very passionate about learning new things, regardless of the subject. For example, I recently bought an introductory economics book and loved it.

I'm not too keen about teaching. I also don't like any job that would be high-stress, like ones with lots of deadlines. I also don't like doing anything physical.

Could you suggest a suitable career for me?
 
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Alexmahone said:
I also don't like any job that would be high-stress, like ones with lots of deadlines.

find a government job
 
pickslides said:
find a government job

Are there ones offered to people with only an undergraduate math degree?
 
Alexmahone said:
Are there ones offered to people with only an undergraduate math degree?

I managed to snare one, but I'm sure it depends on where you are in the world.
 
pickslides said:
I managed to snare one, but I'm sure it depends on where you are in the world.

I live in Canada.
 
I think actuarial science is a great field that is highly paid and is attainable with an undergraduate level understanding of calculus and statistics. It takes some time though to pass the exams. I'm taking my first one in July. Other than that, I've heard that statistics in general can land good jobs although it is better to have or be pursuing a masters degree in stats for this.

This is from the American Mathematical Society but I'm sure that the information should be similar to jobs in Canada.

http://www.ams.org/profession/career-info/career-index
 
Jameson said:
I think actuarial science is a great field that is highly paid and is attainable with an undergraduate level understanding of calculus.

Are actuaries employed by the government or by private firms?
 
Alexmahone said:
Are actuaries employed by the government or by private firms?

Both :) Check out this site for general info. There are different fields in actuarial science, both in the private and public sectors although I believe more jobs are not in government work than those which are.

www.beanactuary.org
 
In general actuaries are employed by insurance companies.
 
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Alexmahone said:
I also don't like any job that would be high-stress, like ones with lots of deadlines.

"I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." - Douglas Adams

CB
 
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Jameson said:
I think actuarial science is a great field that is highly paid and is attainable with an undergraduate level understanding of calculus and statistics. It takes some time though to pass the exams. I'm taking my first one in July. Other than that, I've heard that statistics in general can land good jobs although it is better to have or be pursuing a masters degree in stats for this.

This is from the American Mathematical Society but I'm sure that the information should be similar to jobs in Canada.

http://www.ams.org/profession/career-info/career-index

I believe the level of stress for actuaries depend on their specific field. I have a friend who is an actuary in a bank, and he thinks it is a cushy job. However, I have met actuaries who work for consultancies who have to really work for their paycheck!

To echo pickslides answer, I know in Britain the civil service do not mind what your degree is in. You do have to sit a "challenging" exam though.
 
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Swlabr said:
I believe the level of stress for actuaries depend on their specific field. I have a friend who is an actuary in a bank, and he thinks it is a cushy job. However, I have met actuaries who work for consultancies who have to really work for their paycheck!

I'm tempted to say that if you have to work really hard for your paycheck then you are doing it wrong. Now that your employers think you are working really hard for what they pay you is another matter entirely.

To echo pickslides answer, I know in Britain the civil service do not mind what your degree is in. You do have to sit a "challenging" exam though.

I have been a UK civil servant (though a scientific one, not part of the administrative civil service), and I would not like to be employed as an administrative civil servant I don't like BS (dealing with, talking, ...) enough for that.

There was one time I phoned someone at the Department of the Environment, but they refused to talk to me, I was told that this was probably because he did no know my grade, and suspected I was too many levels below him (I wasn't as it happens but that seemed to be irrelevant).

I believe I was also categorised by the DoE head of our project as not being a team player because I usually calculated the error charateristics of the numbers we produced.

(irrelevant to this post but I will repeat this anecdote anyway: I was working with the Northern Irland Office at Adelaide House and had to visit to install analysis software. The following week it had its windows blown out by a (car?) bomb. On another occaision the project leader from Northern Irland was detained by the police on the London Underground for having an Irish accent)

CB
 
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