What Causes Gravity and Electricity to Act at a Distance Through Vacuum?

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The discussion centers on the fundamental forces of gravity and electricity, both of which act at a distance through a vacuum. While electrostatic forces are well understood, gravity remains complex, requiring concepts like relativity, spacetime curvature, and string theory for explanation. Quantum electrodynamics (QED) is highlighted as a sophisticated framework, developed after general relativity, yet it does not provide a straightforward comparison to gravity. The conversation also touches on the limitations of integrating gravity into quantum mechanics and the speculative nature of string theory.

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We have two main forces: gravity and electricity both acting at distance through vacuum.

This is a natural riddle, but while the electrostatic force causes no big trouble, they had to fancy relativity, spacetime curvature and recently strings to explain gravity.
I can see no difference:
I am surely missing something, can you tell me what?
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bobie said:
We have two main forces: gravity and electricity both acting at distance through vacuum.
Don't forget the weak and strong interaction. They just have a shorter range where they are relevant.

This is a natural riddle, but while the electrostatic force causes no big trouble, they had to fancy relativity, spacetime curvature and recently strings to explain gravity.
Quantum electrodynamics (QED) is fancy as well. Actually, it is so fancy that general relativity was developed several decades before QED. I don't see a fundamental difference here.

Gravity is hard to integrate into a quantum-mechanical theory as it is not linear, and quantum field theory on a curved spacetime is problematic.
 
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Thanks,
could you tell me if is there any difference in (conceptual) questions the two forces raise?
I read in an academic paper re Compton scattering that the oncoming photon makes the electron oscillate in resonation and gives it KE, can we consider electrostatic force in the same way? Can we conclude that also any charge oscillates and makes another charge oscillate?

Is string theory in the same line, regarding mass?
What is the concrete evidence behind string theory?
 
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bobie said:
Thanks,
could you tell me if is there any difference in (conceptual) questions the two forces raise?
I read in an academic paper re Compton scattering that the oncoming photon makes the electron oscillate in resonation and gives it KE, can we consider electrostatic force in the same way? Can we conclude that also any charge oscillates and makes another charge oscillate?
No, electromagnetic effects are not the same as electrostatic effects. Electrostatic effects are a small subset of electromagnetic effects - if nothing moves (by definition!).

Is string theory in the same line, regarding mass?
String theory is a very speculative idea how to implement gravity in quantum field theory. It is completely different from other theories, and it is not even a proper theory (yet?) - just an idea how a theory could look like.
What is the concrete evidence behind string theory?
There is no evidence for string theory.
 
mfb said:
No, electromagnetic effects are not the same as electrostatic effects. Electrostatic effects are a small subset of electromagnetic effects - if nothing moves (by definition!).
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Thanks,
gravity is explained by the curvature of spacetime, is it possible to say in simple words how QED explains electrostatic force?
 
bobie said:
Thanks,
gravity is explained by the curvature of spacetime, is it possible to say in simple words how QED explains electrostatic force?
If you find a simple way, let me know ;).
 

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