What Causes the Magnetic Field in Magnetized Iron?

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The original poster is seeking to understand the basis of the magnetic field in a magnetized piece of iron, expressing uncertainty about the problem's requirements.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the sources of magnetic fields, including electric currents and atomic structure. Questions arise regarding the relationship between charge, current, and the motion of electrons within atoms.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaging in a back-and-forth exploration of concepts related to magnetism, with some guidance provided on the role of electric charge and electron motion in generating magnetic fields. The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored.

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The original poster appears to be struggling with the foundational concepts of magnetism and may lack specific background knowledge on atomic structure and electric currents.

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Homework Statement


What is the underlying basis of the magnetic field in a magnetized piece of iron?

The Attempt at a Solution



I have absolutely no clue what this problem is asking or how to go about answering it.

Thanks in advance
 
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Have you learned of anything that produces a magnetic field?
 
Such as the Earth and electric current?
 
Yes, good.
An electric current is what again and might we find that in matter somehow? (I am leaving this vague for now)
 
Electric current is the rate of charge flow through a given point. I think we can find electric current in matter because there can be charges acting upon each other?
 
Okay.
Take a simplified view of the atom. Is there any current associated with this picture?
 
There can be if it has a charge?
 
Well, what is an atom composed of? Think of maybe the Bohr model, ie. no need for full on quantum here.
 
It is composed of protons, neutrons, electrons. Is charged atomic particles the answer to this question?
 
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What about those electrons? Do they have motion about the nucleus?
 
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Yes they move around the nucleus.
 
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Do electrons have charge?
 
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Yes they have a negative charge.
 
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So you have a charge moving, is that a current?
 
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Yes it is a current.
 
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Nice! Now you may want to flush this out further by considering the motion (orbit) of the electron and what the field would look like from this one "atom."
 

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