What dictates the differences between realms within string theory?

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The discussion revolves around the differences between realms or universes within the framework of string theory, particularly focusing on the implications of randomness and determinism in quantum mechanics. Participants explore how these differences arise and whether they are influenced by concepts such as free will.

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  • One participant questions how differences between realms in string theory occur, suggesting that if hard determinism does not exist, it may be due to randomization or free will.
  • Another participant clarifies that the question pertains more to quantum theory than string theory, explaining that quantum mechanics introduces randomness and that particles can have probabilistic outcomes.
  • The concept of many-worlds theory is introduced, where particles can take different paths in different worlds, which may relate to the original question about differences in realms.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of the differences between realms, with multiple competing views regarding the role of randomness, determinism, and free will in quantum mechanics and string theory.

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The discussion highlights the complexity of the relationship between string theory and quantum mechanics, with assumptions about determinism and randomness remaining unresolved.

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If string theory asserts that a particle can be in more than place and theoretically there are different realms / universes etc. where this occurs but each one is different, how do these differences occur? If it's based the assertion that complete hard determinism does not exist (for every realm would be identical) then does this mean that it is down to randomization of what differs, or does this imply a concept of free will where the differences are based within humans?

EDIT: woops just realized I posted in the wrong sub-forum, terribly sorry!
 
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Your question is actually about quantum theory and not just string theory. Quantum mechanics is the original approach to physics in which randomness exists. Originally you had quantum theories of particles, then you had quantum theories of fields, and now we have quantum theories of strings. A string vibrates, a non-quantum string vibrates deterministically, but a quantum string has some randomness to its vibrations.

But for a moment you should just forget about strings and concentrate on the simpler forms of quantum theory. There are experiments where a particle goes in, it can go left or right, and the theory doesn't definitely say what will happen, it just gives probabilities. The old debate was whether the actual outcome had a hidden cause or not. Suppose the particle went left: was that because there's an extra level to physics, which causes it to go left, or did it really just go left for no reason at all?

For about fifty years we've had a third option, the many-worlds theory: the particle goes left in some worlds and it goes right in other worlds. This must be what you're talking about.
 
mitchell porter said:
Your question is actually about quantum theory and not just string theory. Quantum mechanics is the original approach to physics in which randomness exists. Originally you had quantum theories of particles, then you had quantum theories of fields, and now we have quantum theories of strings. A string vibrates, a non-quantum string vibrates deterministically, but a quantum string has some randomness to its vibrations.

But for a moment you should just forget about strings and concentrate on the simpler forms of quantum theory. There are experiments where a particle goes in, it can go left or right, and the theory doesn't definitely say what will happen, it just gives probabilities. The old debate was whether the actual outcome had a hidden cause or not. Suppose the particle went left: was that because there's an extra level to physics, which causes it to go left, or did it really just go left for no reason at all?

For about fifty years we've had a third option, the many-worlds theory: the particle goes left in some worlds and it goes right in other worlds. This must be what you're talking about.

Yes that's perfect, thank you so much.
 

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