What Did the 2019 Nobel Prize in Physics Reveal About Cosmology and Exoplanets?

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The discussion revolves around the 2019 Nobel Prize in Physics, which was awarded for contributions to physical cosmology and the discovery of an exoplanet orbiting a solar-type star. Participants explore the implications of these awards for the fields of cosmology and astrophysics, as well as their personal reflections on the significance of the discoveries.

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  • Some participants express uncertainty about whether the thread should focus on cosmology or astrophysics due to the mixed nature of the prize.
  • There is a mention of surprise regarding the absence of a prize in Quantum Foundations, with some participants noting that it was anticipated by certain commentators.
  • One participant shares their experience of streaming the announcement at a conference, expressing approval of the prize while critiquing a metaphor used by Ulf Danielsson comparing the universe to a cup of coffee.
  • Another participant reflects on the broad contributions of James Peebles to cosmology, including work on the cosmic microwave background and dark matter, while acknowledging the complexities surrounding dark energy and the Hubble constant.
  • Concerns are raised about the likelihood of future Nobel prizes being awarded to researchers in related fields, particularly regarding the "black hole picture," due to the tendency of the Nobel Committee to vary topics over the years.
  • Some participants engage in light-hearted banter about coffee and sugar, using it as a metaphor for their beliefs about dark energy.
  • There is a shared sentiment that the discovery of exoplanets is a significant milestone in astronomy, with one participant recalling their fascination with the first discoveries.

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Participants express a mix of agreement regarding the merit of the Nobel Prize recipients, but there is no consensus on the implications for future awards or the appropriateness of certain metaphors used in discussions about the universe.

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Some discussions touch on the complexities of defining dark matter and dark energy, as well as the challenges in selecting Nobel laureates in fields with many contributors, but these remain unresolved.

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Mixed prize this year, so I don't know whether this thread belongs to cosmology or astrophysics, so I'll post in GD instead :-p

One half to James Peebles "for theoretical discoveries in physical cosmology", the other half jointly to Michel Mayor and Didier Queloz "for the discovery of an exoplanet orbiting a solar-type star."

https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2019/summary/
 
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Surprised? The Physics World website blog thought it would be the year for a prize in Quantum Foundations.
 
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We streamed the announcement at the PPNT conference in Uppsala right before lunch. The last talk before lunch ended just in time for the announcement to be made as soon as the sound of the video turned on.

It is a good prize I think. Well deserved.

I do not like the comparison Ulf Danielsson made of the Universe to a cup of coffee (a lot of coffee - dark energy, quite a bit of milk - dark matter, and a tiny bit of sugar - ordinary matter). I take my coffee without sugar, but I like having matter in my universe.

Also, Ulf’s introduction was directly copied from the Big Bang Theory theme song by Barenaked Ladies. Copyright infringement?
 
When reading the mentioned Physics World feature I also thought Zeilinger et al were due for the prize finally. I guess the trouble for the Nobel Commitee here however is that there are many experimental researchers on quantum foundations, and it's not easy to pick out a maximum of three with this topic.

The cosmology/astro prize is of course well deserved. I had heard of Peeble's broad work on observables of the big bang in the cosmic microwave background, dark matter, structure formation, bb nucleosynthesis, and all that. It was a good decision to give the prize for all this work on many aspects of cosmology over the decades, making it to the precise and exact science (including the quibbles concerning what dark matter, dark energy really might be and also the trouble with the Hubble constant, ##H_0##).

I never associated names with the discovery of exoplanets. Now I know at least two :-).

The only worry I have that now it's unlikely for my colleagues in Frankfurt to get the Nobel for the "black hole picture" next year :-(, because usually they seem to vary the topics awarded with the prize over the years.
 
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vanhees71 said:
The only worry I have that now it's unlikely for my colleagues in Frankfurt to get the Nobel for the "black hole picture" next year :-(, because usually they seem to vary the topics awarded with the prize over the years.

Age may be a factor. This year again we see two older physicists getting recognition( no posthumous awards).
 
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Orodruin said:
We streamed the announcement at the PPNT conference in Uppsala right before lunch. The last talk before lunch ended just in time for the announcement to be made as soon as the sound of the video turned on.

It is a good prize I think. Well deserved.

I do not like the comparison Ulf Danielsson made of the Universe to a cup of coffee (a lot of coffee - dark energy, quite a bit of milk - dark matter, and a tiny bit of sugar - ordinary matter). I take my coffee without sugar, but I like having matter in my universe.

Also, Ulf’s introduction was directly copied from the Big Bang Theory theme song by Barenaked Ladies. Copyright infringement?
I don't take coffee, but I like sugar flavoured drinks.
So does that mean I don't believe in dark energy? :oldbiggrin:
 
MathematicalPhysicist said:
I don't take coffee, but I like sugar flavoured drinks.
So does that mean I don't believe in dark energy?
https://www.nutricion24.com/en/dark-energy-drink-500-ml-12-uds-vitobest.html. :smile:
 
DrClaude said:
One half to James Peebles "for theoretical discoveries in physical cosmology", the other half jointly to Michel Mayor and Didier Queloz "for the discovery of an exoplanet orbiting a solar-type star."
Well deserved, I think. Exoplanets have been around for such a long time now that I've forgot when the first one(s) was/were discovered. I'd say, the first discovery of an exoplanet orbiting a star was an important step in astronomy/astrophysics. And I remember being deeply fascinated by it.
 
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DennisN said:
https://www.nutricion24.com/en/dark-energy-drink-500-ml-12-uds-vitobest.html. :smile:
Only light energy drinks for me, I'll never join the dark side! :-D
 
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