Who Will Win the 2018 Nobel Prize in Physics?

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The discussion revolves around speculation regarding the potential winners of the 2018 Nobel Prize in Physics. Participants explore various candidates, their contributions, and the implications of gender and age in the selection process. The conversation touches on broader themes related to the significance of the Nobel Prize and the criteria for awarding it.

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  • Some participants speculate on the lack of a clear frontrunner for the 2018 Nobel Prize in Physics, contrasting it with previous years.
  • There is a suggestion that the prize should recognize female scientists more frequently, with Lene Hau mentioned as a potential candidate.
  • Others argue against the influence of gender on the decision-making process for the Nobel Prize, emphasizing the importance of merit over demographics.
  • Concerns are raised about the increasing average age of Nobel laureates, with some participants questioning whether there will be younger recipients this year.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the overall significance of the Nobel Prize, suggesting that it may not adequately reflect the breadth of important scientific work done annually.
  • A participant proposes the multimessenger discovery of a merging neutron star binary as a potential candidate for the prize, noting the challenge of selecting a limited number of recipients from a large author list.
  • Several participants suggest candidates from biomedical sciences, including James Allison for cancer immunotherapy and Jennifer Doudna for CRISPR technology, discussing their contributions and the timing of potential recognition.
  • There is a mention of the implications of awarding the prize too soon after significant discoveries, particularly in the context of ongoing patent disputes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the criteria for awarding the Nobel Prize, particularly regarding gender representation and the significance of the prize itself. There is no consensus on the potential winners or the implications of their contributions.

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Some discussions highlight the limitations of the Nobel Prize in representing the full scope of scientific achievement, as well as the challenges in narrowing down candidates from large collaborative efforts.

  • #91
Ygggdrasil said:
While Askin was key to developing optical tweezer technology, many biophysicsts (principally, Steven Block at Stanford and Carlos Bustamante at Berkeley) have been at the forefront of applying optical tweezer technology to the study of biological systems (indeed, their work is cited heavily in the Nobel prize material describing the applications of optical tweezers).

In fact, one could make a strong argument that a prize for optical tweezers and their application to biological systems probably should have been its own prize to Ashkin, Block and Bustamante. .

https://www.ibiology.org/talks/optical-traps/
 
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  • #92
I'm glad this prize was about technology and usefulness and not about something so esoteric even most educated people couldn't begin to comprehend it.
 
  • #93
bob012345 said:
I'm glad this prize was about technology and usefulness and not about something so esoteric even most educated people couldn't begin to comprehend it.
I would've been fine with either.
 
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  • #94
HAYAO said:
I would've been fine with either.
I agree, I think both types of prizes are ultimately very important and in the spirit of Alfred Nobel's will. However, it has been some time since there was last a physics prize to an invention of this sort as the last couple of years have been full of very important discoveries in fundamental physics.
 
  • #95
The Nobel awards one million dollars. The Wolf prize (my favorite since the term Wolf Laureate just sounds neat) awards one tenth that amount. There is an opportunity to create a prize either greater than a Nobel or in between. I wonder why the U.S. has never created an American Prize even greater than the Nobel?
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  • #96
bob012345 said:
The Nobel awards one million dollars. The Wolf prize (my favorite since the term Wolf Laureate just sounds neat) awards one tenth that amount. There is an opportunity to create a prize either greater than a Nobel or in between. I wonder why the U.S. has never created an American Prize even greater than the Nobel?
I do not think you can just create a prize that awards more money and call it "greater". The prize money is of course a nice touch, but if you ask the laureates what meant the most to them, I am pretty sure that the recognition and prestige would come first. Sure, you can throw in the money and make a huge prize, but the Nobel Prize would still have a head start of over 100 years of history and tradition.
 
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  • #97
Orodruin said:
I do not think you can just create a prize that awards more money and call it "greater". The prize money is of course a nice touch, but if you ask the laureates what meant the most to them, I am pretty sure that the recognition and prestige would come first. Sure, you can throw in the money and make a huge prize, but the Nobel Prize would still have a head start of over 100 years of history and tradition.
Yes, that's true but if the new prize was known to be administered by the best minds in American science and the prize large, the prestige would grow. The Wolf prize has only been around since the late 70's. There could be an added incentive such as any American Prize winner could just walk into the best American institutions and be given whatever they want.
 
  • #98
bob012345 said:
The Nobel awards one million dollars. The Wolf prize (my favorite since the term Wolf Laureate just sounds neat) awards one tenth that amount. There is an opportunity to create a prize either greater than a Nobel or in between. I wonder why the U.S. has never created an American Prize even greater than the Nobel?

The Breakthrough Prize gives a 3 million dollar award to its laureates. Some of the awards seem to be going to scientists initially passed over for Nobels (e.g. this year's award to Jocelyn Bell Burnell)
 
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  • #99
bob012345 said:
Yes, that's true but if the new prize was known to be administered by the best minds in American science and the prize large, the prestige would grow.
You seem to assume that there would be some inherent additional prestige in the "best minds in American science". I do not think that this is true.

bob012345 said:
There could be an added incentive such as any American Prize winner could just walk into the best American institutions and be given whatever they want.
Institutions would never agree to that.
 
  • #100
The Fields medal is - together with the Abel prize - the most prestigious award in mathematics, with a prize money of just ~$10,000.
bob012345 said:
Yes, that's true but if the new prize was known to be administered by the best minds in American science and the prize large, the prestige would grow. The Wolf prize has only been around since the late 70's. There could be an added incentive such as any American Prize winner could just walk into the best American institutions and be given whatever they want.
A national prize will never get the reputation of the big international prizes. And that reward is unrealistic as well.
 
  • #102
StatGuy2000 said:
Worth noting that Donna Strickland is Canadian too!
And her BS was in Engineering Physics. Oh yea. :oldwink:
 
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  • #103
The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences has decided to award the Nobel Prize in Chemistry 2018 with one half to Frances H. Arnold ”for the directed evolution of enzymes” and the other half jointly to George P. Smith and Sir Gregory P. Winter ”for the phage display of peptides and antibodies”.
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/chemistry/2018/press-release/

Definitely a well deserved prize. Both techniques are very useful and are widely used in a number of applications.
 
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  • #104
Some fun with Nobel Numbers:

The cash prize that goes along with the Nobel is 9,000,000 Swedish Krona/Kronor (SEK)
this is just shy of $1 million USD

Between 1901 and 2017, the Nobel Prizes and the Prize in Economic Sciences were awarded 585 times

  • Awards: 585
  • Laureates: 923
  • Prize categories: 6
  • Awarded women: 48
  • Awarded organisations: 48
  • Average age: 60
  • Youngest laureate: 17
  • Oldest laureate: 90
Nobel information from https://www.nobelprize.org/
currency rates from https://finance.yahoo.com/currency-converter?.tsrc=fin-srch

diogenesNY
 
  • #105
diogenesNY said:
Oldest laureate: 90
Arthur Ashkin is 96 and will get the prize in December.
 
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  • #106
mfb said:
Arthur Ashkin is 96 and will get the prize in December.
I had a cousin in the U.K. who received an earned doctorate when he was 94 but he didn't get to practice his field very long.
 

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