Other What do all the useless engineering graduates do for work?

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The discussion revolves around the challenges faced by engineering graduates in securing meaningful employment beyond low-paying jobs like QA testing. It highlights the importance of attitude, communication skills, and proactive job searching strategies, such as applying to multiple positions and improving interviewing techniques. Participants express frustration over the perceived lack of opportunities and the struggle to find fulfilling work, suggesting that success often requires job changes for salary increases rather than skill development. The conversation emphasizes the need to diagnose underlying issues affecting job prospects and the role of personal attributes in achieving career success. The thread concludes with a note on moderation, indicating that the discussion has reached its limit.
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Apart from digging ditches and qa testing what jobs is one supposed to do?
 
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Only the ones with bad attitudes get bad jobs.
 
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So your proposal is: bad attitude -> good attitude. Problem solved. /s.
 
It definitely helps.
 
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marcusl said:
It definitely helps.
Sure it does. /s.
 
OP: Not sure how to parse your question. Is it (1) the "engineering degrees" per se that are useless; or is it (2) the "engineering graduates" who are useless? If you mean (2), then, well, useless persons are useless persons, regardless of whether they are engineering graduates or not; and by definition, useless persons have no use; so what's your point?
 
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If you have an engineering degree from a good program with good grades then you should be able to find a job with a reasonable amount of effort. If that isn't happening then it is important to diagnose the actual issue.

1) Availability of positions in your area (can you relocate)
2) Rate of application (should be submitting multiple per day, spending several hours)
3) Interviewing skills (practice and training)
4) ...

There has to be an actual reason.
 
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nnjoo said:
Apart from digging ditches and qa testing what jobs is one supposed to do?
My experience is we usually take low paying jobs in industry/design and struggle...I gave up. I'm a stay at home dad now(bad attitude). If you want money then you must constantly change jobs (usually for increased salary - and not really increased knowledge/skill). Learn how to talk a big game...by the time you are figured out you are already on to the next job with a raise. I've seen many others do it, it's not unique to engineering. There is a balance though, if you rise too high your wax wings will be melted by the sun...be careful of the investment bankers. Good luck.
 
CrysPhys said:
OP: Not sure how to parse your question. Is it (1) the "engineering degrees" per se that are useless; or is it (2) the "engineering graduates" who are useless? If you mean (2), then, well, useless persons are useless persons, regardless of whether they are engineering graduates or not; and by definition, useless persons have no use; so what's your point?
Then don't reply if you're that confused. It's not rocket science.
 
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nnjoo said:
Then don't reply if you're that confused. It's not rocket science.
No, it's not rocket science. It's a matter of good communication skills ... which (along with the aforementioned good attitude and other factors) are also key to landing good jobs.
 
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Thread closed for Moderation and troll patrol...
 
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This thread got some surprisingly good answers and has run its course so it will remain closed.
 

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