What do they mean with real and virtual corrections ?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concepts of real and virtual corrections in quantum field theory (QFT), particularly in the context of perturbative calculations. Participants explore definitions, implications, and the relationship between these corrections, especially in quantum electrodynamics (QED) and their role in addressing infrared divergences.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants define real corrections as those involving particles that are on-shell and can be detected, while virtual corrections involve off-shell particles that do not appear as external states in the process.
  • One participant provides an example involving electron-positron interactions to illustrate the difference between real and virtual corrections.
  • A later reply discusses the specific case of QED, mentioning the 1-loop vertex virtual correction and its relation to the fine-structure constant, as well as the real corrections associated with bremsstrahlung emissions.
  • There is a question raised about whether real and virtual corrections always cancel infrared divergences across any number of loops, leading to a reference to the KLN Theorem.
  • Another participant asserts that real and virtual corrections indeed conspire to yield infrared finite results, emphasizing the implications of encountering infrared divergences in calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the definitions and roles of real and virtual corrections, as well as the significance of their interplay in addressing infrared divergences. However, the discussion includes questions about the universality of these principles across different scenarios, indicating some uncertainty remains.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the potential for misunderstandings regarding the definitions of real and virtual corrections, as well as the specific conditions under which the KLN Theorem applies. There is also a lack of consensus on the implications of infrared divergences in various contexts.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students and researchers in quantum field theory, particularly those interested in perturbative methods, QED, and the handling of divergences in calculations.

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Hi guys,
it's been a long time since I wrote here the last time...

I come with a very stupid question... it's only a definition, and it's a matter of ignorance I know that... but nobody ever explained it to me, nor i ever found a clear definition on a QFT book... or probably I simply don't know where to look for it...

the question is, what do people mean with real and virtual corrections? When you compute a process in perturbative QFT i know that real particles are those which are on-shell, or those written as external lines, while virtual particles are the internal off-shell particles in a feynman diagram... but this only confuses me more... why when people talk about computing some process at some perturbative order, they always talk about virtual and real corrections? what's the difference? and what do they mean from a mathematica and mostly physical point of view?

thank you and sorry if this is too trivial,

Sleuth
 
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Real corrections are corrections where the additional interactionvertex leads to the creation of a particle that survives, i.e. makes it out of the interaction.
Virtual corrections are when the additional particle is also absorbed.

As an example
if we have a e- and e+ going via a photon to mu- and mu+, a real correction can be that one of the muons send out a photon, so that we really have a process which create mu+, mu- and a photon. On the other hand, a virtual correction could be that the mu- sends out a photon that is absorbed by the mu+.

Does this make it clearer to you?
 
Hey, thank you so much :)
so it was just a name problem as i guessed :)

now it is perfectly clear...

Now I have a second question... Let's consider just QED for simplicity.

The 1 Loop vertex VIRTUAL correction should be the one which gives the famous \alpha/(2 \pi) by Schwinger (right?), while the REAL corrections are simply the Breemsstrahlung emission of a photon...

Now this is the question: the two corrections have to be summed to get rid of the IR soft and collinear divergences...

Is this always true? I mean, when dealing with any number of loops, is it always true that the divergences of the REAL corrections are canceled by those of the Virtual corrections?

Thank you

Sleuth
 
YES, real and virtual corrections always conspire to give you IR finite results, to all orders in perturbation theory. This is called the "KLN Theorem".

In practice this provides a powerful way you know you made a mistake: if you get an IR divergence in the final result, there are one of two possibilities: (1) you made a mistake in the calculation, or (2) you are asking the wrong question!

Possibility (2) is realized with the bremmstrahlung: if you try to ask, "What is the probability of emitting a single photon?" that makes no sense since you actually cannot observe the emission of a single photon with arbitrary energy. What you MEANT to ask is "What is the probability of emitting a single photon with enough energy for me to detect?" THAT is the correct question to ask! And QED has told you that the first question makes no sense by giving you an IR-divergent answer.
 
Thank you so much... I'm starting my studies on qcd now and it seems i had so many questions :P
but now things are going to the right place thanks to some calculations that I'm doing :)
thanks again
Sleuth
 

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