What do you think about graduate schemes?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of graduate schemes, particularly in the context of transitioning from academic studies to professional employment in engineering. Participants explore the nature of these programs, their benefits, and potential drawbacks, as well as personal experiences related to career development and job opportunities.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about their career direction after completing a master's in Production Engineering and inquires about the value of graduate schemes.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on the term "graduate scheme," suggesting it may be synonymous with "graduate program" or "traineeship."
  • A participant describes graduate schemes as programs for fresh graduates that typically last over a year, providing exposure to various company activities and a guaranteed job placement, though they note variability among programs.
  • There is a comparison made to internships in the US, where such experiences are often undertaken while still a student, particularly in scientific and technical fields.
  • One participant shares their experience of completing an unpaid placement that led to full-time employment, emphasizing the importance of gaining initial experience in the field.
  • Another participant agrees that graduate schemes can help clarify career paths and expresses concerns about job opportunities abroad, noting the importance of skills like programming.
  • A participant critiques the compatibility of product development roles with the inquirer's desire for travel and dynamic environments, suggesting alternative roles that might better fit those requirements.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential limitations of graduate schemes, including the risk of being left without opportunities in desired departments after completion.
  • One participant suggests that the inquirer may benefit from researching various engineering roles to better inform their career decisions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and differing perspectives regarding the value and structure of graduate schemes. While some see them as beneficial for gaining experience and exploring career options, others highlight potential drawbacks and limitations, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention that graduate schemes are primarily offered by large corporations, which may limit options for job seekers. There is also a suggestion that the inquirer may not have a clear understanding of the various engineering roles available, indicating a need for further exploration.

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I'm about to finish my Production Engineering master studies and I'm planning my next move. I do have some previous working experience but don't feel like I've developed specific skill-set yet. Not sure what I want to do ether but I kinda like product development.

My main requirements for the job are:
Travelling (I enjoy dynamic environment, tasks, people etc.)
Sufficient salary (just enough at first)
Do you think some graduate scheme is a good option for me? Let me know if you have any experience with graduate schemes?
 
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Could you elaborate on what you mean by "graduate scheme?"
 
Choppy said:
Could you elaborate on what you mean by "graduate scheme?"

I think it's the same thing as graduate program or traineeship (probably picked up that 'scheme' word while looking up the topic).
So the program is meant for fresh graduates and usually lasts for >1 year in a selected field afterwhich you are supposed to have well rounded knowledge of the company activities and basically are guaranteed a job placement in that company. Depending on the program you are assigned with various challenging tasks but probably do some day to day typical employee work too. Of course you are paid throughout but there's a salary increase after you end the program.

To me it sounds appealing that one gets to see different aspects of work and kinda try themselves a little on everything. Not all programs are the same so I first have to find the right one.
 
That sounds like what we would call an "internship" in the US, but here those are usually done while still a student, during the summer, at least in scientific and technical fields.
 
Often, getting the first employment in your field is the hardest step - all employers want experience... After completing a programming course I did a three month unpaid placement which led to a full time job. Without that, there would have been little chance of breaking into the market in a specialized field. I would certainly enter a graduate program if the opportunity is there - if nothing else it will widen your work experience and help you decide on the career path to focus on.
 
I agree that it's a way to decide on a career path to focus on.
I could easily land a job back in my home country but abroad only speaking english it's tough. Of course having the skills like programming would help penetrate those markets even without the language.
Lastly, I'm simply afraid to settle after graduation so this ~2 year dynamic commitment is appealing.
 
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Butters said:
but I kinda like product development.

My main requirements for the job are:
Travelling (I enjoy dynamic environment, tasks, people etc.)
Those aren't compatible at all.
I work in product development, there's no travel and I rarely meet new people.

I think some sales, applications, project, contract, field engineer roles would fit your requirements better.

As for graduate programs, as the link above says, generally only large corporates offer them so you're reducing your options right off the bat if you only aim for the companies that offer them.

I had a class mate who went through one, after the two years there were no openings in
the department he wanted to work in so he left. he was then applying for graduate roles in his newly preferred area and was competing with new graduates who had about the same amount of experience as he had in that area (~6 months, 2 internships).
So while he found out what he liked he ended up a year and a half behind.
It sounds like you have little idea what different engineering roles entail so a few hours in google may help you decide and get you where you want faster.
 
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