What Does 50% Battery Really Indicate About My Phone's Charge?

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of a phone's battery percentage indicator, specifically what 50% charge signifies in terms of voltage and stored energy. Participants explore the accuracy of battery indicators and methods for measuring battery capacity.

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Main Points Raised

  • Ramone questions whether 50% indicates 50% of current/power left or 50% of voltage, expressing uncertainty about the meaning of the percentage.
  • One participant asserts that 50% means 50% of stored energy is left.
  • Strat-O shares concerns about the accuracy of battery life indicators, citing personal experience with an older phone model that misrepresents charge levels.
  • Ramone inquires about measuring milliamp hours (mAh) in a circuit.
  • Another participant suggests using a battery, resistor, ammeter, and clock as a simple measurement approach.
  • A different participant mentions that state of charge (SOC) can be determined from open circuit voltage, but notes that this method requires a precise electrometer.
  • There is a discussion about the relationship between potential and state of charge, with a caution that it only applies to undamaged batteries and emphasizes the need for experimental measurement of capacity.
  • One participant questions the choice of using an electrometer over a voltmeter for measuring voltage.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the accuracy of battery indicators and the interpretation of the 50% charge. There is no consensus on the best method for measuring battery capacity or the implications of the percentage displayed.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in battery indicator accuracy and the conditions under which different measurement methods may be valid. There is also mention of the need for undamaged batteries for certain measurements to be reliable.

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Dear Experts,

My phone battery indicator shows 50% charged.

My question is, assuming the phone needs 5v to operate, what does the 50% mean?

Is it :

1. 50% current / power is left? If so, 50 % of how much amperes / watts?

2. 50% of 5v is left? Unlikely since that would mean too little voltage to operate the phone.

So, basically, I am not sure what does the percent really mean. What is the formula that derives the percentage?

Any clues would be much appreciated.


Sincerely
Ramone
 
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50% of stored energy is left.
 
First off, the battery life remaining indicators are not very accurate, so what is displayed often doesn't show the reality. For example, I've got an ancient RAZR and if it's very low but I only charge it for ten minutes it displays fully charged but only for a short while.

Ideally the indicator would show you 50% if you had a 2000 mAh battery that had 1000 mAh left but that doesn't seem to reflect how the indicators behave.

Strat-O
 
Hi Borek and Strat-O, thank you so much for explaining to me.

any idea how mAh can be measured in a circuit?

sincerely
ramone
 
Battery, resistor, ammeter and clock would be the simplest approach.
 
Borek said:
Battery, resistor, ammeter and clock would be the simplest approach.

You can also determine a batteries SOC (state of charge) from its open circuit voltage, although this requires a relatively accurate electrometer.
 
Topher925 said:
You can also determine a batteries SOC (state of charge) from its open circuit voltage

Yes and no. While there exists a relationship between potential and state of charge (see Nernsth equation), it works correctly only for a battery that is not damaged. The only sure way of checking the battery is experimental measurement of its capacity.

Not sure why you want to use electrometer, and not a precise voltmeter?
 

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