What Energies Are Involved in Exciting and Ionizing Helium Atoms?

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The discussion revolves around the energies involved in exciting and ionizing helium atoms, specifically focusing on the ionization of a ground state helium atom and the excitation to various states of helium and its ion. The subject area includes atomic physics and quantum mechanics.

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  • Participants are attempting to identify the energies required for ionization and excitation of helium atoms, with specific references to energy levels and configurations. Questions are raised about the concepts involved, such as ionization energy and binding energy, as well as how to account for screening effects in calculations.

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i) What is the energy required to singly ionise a ground state Helium atom into the first excited state of the helium ion?

ii) What is the energy required to excite a ground state helium atom into the first excited state of neutral helium?

iii) What is the energy required to doubly excite a ground state helium atom into the first doubly excited state of neutral helium?
 
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Welcome to PF Ecniv,

You are expected to show some effort in solving the questions yourself.
 
Ecniv said:
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Hootenanny said:
You are expected to show some effort in solving the questions yourself.
Let me rephrase, you are required to show some effort in solving the question yourself before we will help you.

What are the concepts involved? What have you tried thus far?
 
Ecniv said:
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You might want to have a look at the rules for this forum.
 
Same Problem

Hi

I have the same questions

For i) I know we want to ionise the ground state Helium atom from 1s^2 to the first excited state of the helium ion which is 1s^1 2p^1 I think

So that means we want the original ionisation energy +that to bump it up

but I am not sure what the energy to bump it up would be

using the basic binding energy formula E=(-Z^2 R)/( n^2) doesn't seem to give me a decent value for n =2 and Z=2 and I am not sure how to incorporate sceening charge
 

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