What exactly is the amplitude of an interaction?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of amplitude in the context of particle interactions, particularly as described in quantum field theory (QFT) and its relation to probability. Participants explore the meaning of amplitude, its calculation from Feynman diagrams, and its implications for understanding interactions in particle physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant introduces the term "amplitude" as it appears in Griffiths' text, expressing confusion about its meaning compared to wave amplitude.
  • Another participant clarifies that the amplitude referred to is the "probability amplitude," which can be squared to yield a probability density for the interaction, similar to quantum mechanics.
  • There is a suggestion that the original poster may need to review foundational quantum mechanics before tackling Griffiths' material, although the original poster asserts familiarity with basic QM concepts.
  • A participant reiterates the definition of probability amplitude and questions whether the integral of the squared amplitude corresponds to the probability of an interaction occurring.
  • Another participant responds that while the squared amplitude is related to probability, in particle physics, it is more complex, involving additional factors such as kinematics and distinguishing between scattering and decay processes.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the concept of amplitude, with some agreeing on its definition as a probability amplitude while others highlight the complexity of its application in particle physics. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the precise interpretation and implications of amplitude in different contexts.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the reader's background knowledge in quantum mechanics and the specific definitions of terms like "probability density" and "kinematics" in the context of particle interactions.

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I've been reading Griffths' intro to elementary particles and I encountered this symbol that looks similar to "M" called amplitude, which can be calculated by analyzing the Feynman diagram of an interaction. What exactly is it? When I hear amplitude I imagine waves, but not sure what this one's supposed to mean.
 
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This is the "probability amplitude". You multiply it by its complex conjugate in order to get a type of probability density for the interaction, similarly to the way in ordinary QM the position probability density ##P(\vec x) = |\psi(\vec x)|^2 = \psi^*(\vec x)\psi(\vec x)##.
 
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If you have not seen a quantum mechanical amplitude, it is likely that Griffiths is too advanced for you at the moment. I would suggest backing off to a book on QM, and when you have that down, return to Griffiths,
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
If you have not seen a quantum mechanical amplitude, it is likely that Griffiths is to advanced for you at the moment. I would suggest backing off to a book on QM, and when you have that down, return to Griffiths,
I have read his book intro to quantum mechanics and have taken an intro to QM class. I know about Schrödinger eq and how to calculate probability from it.
 
jtbell said:
This is the "probability amplitude". You multiply it by its complex conjugate in order to get a type of probability density for the interaction, similarly to the way in ordinary QM the position probability density ##P(\vec x) = |\psi(\vec x)|^2 = \psi^*(\vec x)\psi(\vec x)##.
So intergral of|M|^2 is the prob that particular interaction will occur?
 
Natchanon said:
So intergral of|M|^2 is the prob that particular interaction will occur?

Not quite. In particle physics there are two kind of processes: scattering and decays. There are two famous observables that you can calculate with QFT: cross section for the first and decay width for the second.

For both you need ## | \mathcal M | ^ 2 ##, but also some kinematics of the process.

## \mathcal M ## represents somehow the probability, but it is not as direct as in QM.
 
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