What Gear Ratio Is Needed for a 12-Foot Wheel to Achieve 60 RPM?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the appropriate gear ratio needed to drive a 12-foot wheel at a maximum speed of 60 RPM, given a power supply shaft speed of 2300 RPM. Participants explore various gear setups, including reduction gears and alternative transmission systems, in the context of a side paddle wheeler boat project.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the ideal gear ratio to achieve 60 RPM from 2300 RPM is 6/230, although this may be challenging to implement in a single stage of spur gearing.
  • Another participant proposes that an epicyclic setup could be a viable option for achieving the required gear ratio, questioning the feasibility of a "one direct drive ratio."
  • A link to harmonic drives is shared, indicating interest in alternative gearing solutions.
  • A participant elaborates on the context of the project, mentioning the use of various power sources (V-6, V-8, V-12 engines) and the need for the output shaft to run at a consistent RPM across different gears.
  • Suggestions are made for considering a continuously variable transmission (CVT) or hydrostatic transmission as potential solutions for the application.
  • One participant shares a personal experience with a CVT company, recommending it as a resource for the project.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the best approach to achieve the desired gear ratio, with some favoring traditional gearing methods and others advocating for more complex transmission systems. No consensus is reached on a single solution.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various assumptions about power sources and operational limits, as well as the specific requirements for the paddle wheel application. Limitations in the feasibility of achieving the proposed gear ratios with certain setups are acknowledged but not resolved.

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Individuals interested in mechanical engineering, gear design, or applications related to marine propulsion systems may find this discussion relevant.

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greetings...!

I need some correct info for a project I am working on... this site looks like it may well be able to help me .
the problem is as follows;

I have a 12'ft. wheel that I need to turn at a maximum of 60 rpm.
the shaft from the power supply turns at 2300 rpm.

what would be the gear ratio to drive that wheel to only 60 rpm top speed ?

I know it is a reduction gear set up.
I would like to use steel gearing for this project .

NO WORM GEARS PLEASE .
JUST ONE DIRECT DRIVE RATIO, THE MOST SIMPLE .

thank you .
 
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Looks like, ideally, you want the ratio to be 6/230 which is quite a bit to accomplish in a single stage of spur gearing. But that's the answer to your question as asked.
 
I don't know whether or not you consider this to be "one direct drive ratio", but it seems to me that an epicyclic set-up would be the way to go for that kind of ratio.
 
Well, I'll be dipped... I've never heard of that thing before. If it's legit, I am extremely interested in getting my mitts on a few.
 
O.K. - O.K.,
let me present this problem in the correct & open manner,

the wheel is for a side paddle wheeler boat.
I have many power sorce, v-6, v-8, v-12.

some have a max power of rpm of 5600 rpm.

I don`t need to run the rpm that high, although the max power is achieved at that high rpm.

I plan to max the output shaft to the wheel axel at about 2500 rpm ...
the wheels can only turn at 60 rpm max...(they lose power after that rpm & are operating under peak power output).

it would be nice to have the output shaft run at the same rpm in all gears (if an automotive automatic transmission is used).
you know... low, 2nd, 3rd & 4th + 5th .

running all these gears with the H.P. & torque in different rpm & gears ... to the shaft ...where is attaches to the paddle wheel axel.
{CAN YOU SEE WHAT I AM GETTING AT} .

its like a auto engine & transmission ... a drive shaft to the differential axel to the wheels .
the only way to go... it can be done.

I have tried to get the gear ratios for tractor gearbox &wheels ... not much luck .

here is what I need:

say... 2 ----16'ft. paddle wheels as on a side paddle wheel yacht , that will turn at a maximum of 60 rpm with the most h.p. & torque possible .
kind of like a drive unit that will only turn a max of 60 rpm no matter what power sorce is attached to the reduction unit .

whew...! ha .
that said ...I will continue to search for the ultimate reduction gear unit ... I`ll get it someday !

L. A. ROSA .
 
What you want is a CVT. For your application, I would suggest looking at an hydrostatic transmission found on many tractors.

Also, many years ago, I visited CVTCORP when they were a start-up company and they seem to have a very nice toroidal CVT. They seem to still be in business, it might be worth giving them a call.
 

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