What good is it? << Where did this phrase come from?

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The discussion revolves around the phrase "What good is it?" and its origins, particularly in the context of particle physics experiments. Participants explore various anecdotes and quotes attributed to notable physicists, examining how this phrase reflects skepticism about the practical applications of scientific discoveries.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the phrase "What good is it?" is commonly used in discussions about the value of particle physics experiments, suggesting that it may not have a single origin.
  • Another participant mentions a quote attributed to J. J. Thompson regarding the electron, highlighting a historical skepticism about the usefulness of scientific discoveries.
  • A different quote attributed to I. I. Rabi regarding the muon is presented, illustrating a similar sentiment of questioning the relevance of certain particles.
  • Some participants express that the phrase itself is standard English and may not require a specific origin story, indicating a broader cultural context for its use.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a single origin for the phrase, with multiple competing anecdotes and interpretations presented. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the definitive source of the phrase.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various physicists and their quotes, but the connections to the phrase are anecdotal and may depend on individual interpretations of historical context.

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I often see the phrase "What good is it?" pop up in defending (or attempting to defend) particle physics experiments. Does anyone know who said this, or where this anecdotal story comes from? I've heard conflicting stories about Farraday, or the discovery of the muon or neutrino...

The question is sometimes written "What's it good for?" or "What use is it?"

Thanks in advance!
 
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I don't think there's one person who's said this as it would be common to say when you not sure the invention or whatever has a worthwhile purpose. Sometimes this negativity inspires inventors to continue their quest other times not.

Another more attributable quote is : Something is Not Even Wrong first associated with Pauli of the Exclusion Principle fame for things that are not provable or just plain nonsense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_even_wrong
 
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J J Thompson, who was credited with the discovery of the electron was reputed to have given the toast: -

"The electron: may it never be of any use to anybody"

How things have changed...
 
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There is also the quote attributed to I. I. Rabi who, upon the discovery of the muon, a particle that had no role in nuclear interaction, said "Who ordered that?"
 
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Adoniram said:
I often see the phrase "What good is it?" pop up in defending (or attempting to defend) particle physics experiments. Does anyone know who said this, or where this anecdotal story comes from? I've heard conflicting stories about Farraday, or the discovery of the muon or neutrino...

The question is sometimes written "What's it good for?" or "What use is it?"

Thanks in advance!
This simple question is standard enough as standard English, that it should not really have a special origin.
 

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