What Happens to Temperature and Ice Mass When Ice Cubes are Added to Water?

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The discussion revolves around a thermal equilibrium problem involving the addition of ice cubes to water. The scenario includes a thermally insulated container with water at an initial temperature and ice at a lower temperature, prompting questions about final temperatures and the mass of ice melted.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the heat transfer between the water and ice, questioning the initial calculations and the assumptions made regarding heat loss and gain. There are discussions about the need to incorporate the latent heat of fusion and the specific heat capacities of water and ice.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering different equations and approaches to calculate the heat transfer. Some have suggested reconsidering the assumptions about the temperature changes and the amount of ice that melts, indicating a productive exploration of the problem.

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There is mention of specific heat values and the latent heat of fusion, which are critical to the calculations. The discussion also highlights the need to consider whether the heat absorbed by the ice is sufficient to cool the water to 0°C, raising questions about the conditions of the system.

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A single 50 g ice cube is dropped into a thermally insulated container holding 200 g of water. The water is initially at 25 oC and the ice is initially at -15 oC.

a) What is the final temperature of the system after is has come to thermal equilibrium ?


b) In terms of mass, how much of the ice has melted?

c) Now let's drop a second 50gm cube of ice into the system. What is the final temperature of the system after it has come to thermal equilibrium for this second time?

d) What is the total mass of ice (including the first cube) melted during this entire process?

Specific heat of water= 4186; Ice= 2090 (got these from book)
so for A, i calculated about 19.5C which was wrong..here is what i did
Q= (.2*4186*(0-25))-(.05*2090)-(.05*4186*(25-0))

Temp change= Q/((.2+.05)*4186)
 
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Q= (.2*4186*(0-25))-(.05*2090)-(.05*4186*(25-0))
This equation is wrong.
Write heat lost by the water and heat gained by the ice. When the ice melt to water the temperature remains constant. In that phase you have to use the latent heat of ice.
 
Heat lost by water= .2*4186*-25
Heat gained by ice= .05*2090*15
Ice to water change= .05*334000

Add all those up should equal my Q right?
 
mattmannmf said:
Heat lost by water= .2*4186*-25
Heat gained by ice= .05*2090*15
Ice to water change= .05*334000

Add all those up should equal my Q right?

You have to think about what's happening.

Is there enough heat absorption by the ice to cool the water to 0 ?

If not how much of the ice needs to be melted to bring it to 0 ?

If it all melts and there is still a surplus, then apply that surplus to the total water (water + melted ice because it's now water) and then figure the temperature of the whole.
 

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