What has caused this panda-face in a cloud chamber ?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the origin of a peculiar pattern resembling a panda face observed in a cloud chamber. Participants explore various hypotheses regarding the causes of this phenomenon, considering factors such as the radioactive source, environmental conditions, and potential artifacts.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the panda face might be an artifact caused by the Americium 241 radioactive source, which is similar in size and shape to the largest ring observed.
  • Another participant humorously proposes a connection to Ancient Aliens.
  • Concerns are raised about the authenticity of the image, with one participant questioning whether it could be a fake.
  • A participant mentions the Earth's magnetic field and speculates that a low energy cosmic ray could be involved.
  • One participant discusses the gamma rays emitted by Americium 241 and their potential to produce electron-positron pairs, noting that these typically spiral in a magnetic field, though the chamber lacks an added magnetic field.
  • References to the Penguin diagram are made, with some participants jokingly connecting it to the panda theme.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with no consensus reached on the cause of the panda face. Some hypotheses are more serious, while others are humorous or speculative.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various assumptions about the nature of the radioactive source and the conditions within the cloud chamber, which may not be fully explored or resolved.

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This image was posted on another forum , maybe someone here may be able to shed some light on the origin of the grinning-panda ...

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The the cloud chamber does not have an applied magnetic field.

The radioactive source is Americium 241 [ from smoke detector ? ].

The duration of the camera exposure cannot be greater than one second (so I am told).

Personally I think the panda-face is an artefact caused by the radioactive source which has a similar size and shape to the largest* ring, but maybe some series of atomic events has created the pattern ? , ( the circular forms in the absence of a strong magnetic field makes me think otherwise ).

(* which is less than 1cm in diameter),
 

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My theory is that it has something to do with Ancient Aliens :smile:
 
We are not ancient!
 
you sure its not a fake?
 
There is the magnetic field of the earth, it could be a low energy cosmic ray. Nice imagination to suggest a panda face !
 
The great panda god is calling us!
 
Americium 241 does emit gamma rays, which can produce electron-positron pairs, which have circular/spiralling paths in a strong ( 0.1 T) magnetic field ...

Electron and positron spiralling tracks

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positron and electron being created by a gamma ray which came in from the top of the picture

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But the panda-face appeared in a home-made cloud chamber which does not have an added magnetic field.

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andrien said:
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It's a joke. Penguin diagram, Panda diagram.
 
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lol,
 

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