What is a Fiducial Cross Section?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of fiducial cross sections in particle physics, exploring its definition, implications, and related terms such as fiducial volumes and detector efficiencies. Participants seek to clarify the meaning and application of fiducial cross sections, particularly in the context of experimental measurements and theoretical models.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the definition of fiducial cross sections and their relationship to detector acceptance and cut efficiencies.
  • Another participant provides a definition, stating that fiducial cross sections refer to a subset of a process where distinctive signatures are visible within the detector's sensitive regions, with corrections for inefficiencies applied.
  • Questions are raised regarding why fiducial cross sections should be a subset of a process and the nature of the volume where inefficiencies are corrected.
  • A later reply clarifies that the subset refers to measurable particles, emphasizing that realistic detectors do not cover the full solid angle and that inefficiencies can only be corrected for particles entering the detector's fiducial phase space.
  • Participants discuss the concept of the "detector transfer function" in relation to efficiencies and migration effects.

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Participants exhibit a mix of understanding and confusion regarding the definition and implications of fiducial cross sections. While some definitions and clarifications are provided, there remains uncertainty and debate over specific terms and concepts related to the topic.

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Limitations include potential missing assumptions about the definitions of fiducial volumes and the specifics of detector efficiencies. The discussion does not resolve the complexities surrounding the term "detector transfer function" or the implications of measuring subsets of processes.

ChrisVer
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I have come across the term quiet often, but I find it difficult to explain it to myself (or others) and even interpret it...
So what is a fiducial cross section?
Is it the measured cross section once you factor out the detector acceptance and the different cut-efficiencies (mainly motivated by Eq.7 or Sec.6 of this paper https://arxiv.org/pdf/1307.5865.pdf )... However I am slightly confused with terms like 'fiducial volumes' and things like that or how this (in the end) becomes model-independent.
 
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  • Fiducial cross section, in particle physics experiments, a cross section for the subset of a process in which the distinctive process signatures are visible within the sensitive regions of the detector volume. The definition now commonly means a cross section with kinematic and other selection cuts consistent with the sensitive detector acceptance applied, but in which detector inefficiencies are corrected for within that volume. These corrections are typically derived by applying the fiducial cuts on collections of simulated collision events, with and without detector simulation, and inverting the resulting detector transfer function. Fiducial cross sections are favoured for many purposes because they minimise extrapolation into experimentally invisible phase space, and are hence maximally model-independent.
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Some example questions from that definition:
Why should it be a subset of a process? In fact from how many sets does a process consist of?
What is that volume in which the inefficiencies are corrected?
"detector transfer function"?
 
ChrisVer said:
Why should it be a subset of a process?
It is the part you can measure, that is necessarily a subset of all particles. With realistic detectors it is even a strict subset, e. g. you never get full 4 pi solid angle coverage.
ChrisVer said:
In fact from how many sets does a process consist of?
That question doesn't make sense.
ChrisVer said:
What is that volume in which the inefficiencies are corrected?
The measurable part, e. g. particles flying into the direction of the detector. There you can know "okay, my efficiency is 50%, so there are twice as many particles as I observe". For particles that don't even fly into your detector you cannot do this. They are outside your fiducial phase space.
ChrisVer said:
"detector transfer function"?
The efficiencies and migration effects.
 

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