What is a positive definite Hamiltonian?

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The discussion centers around the concept of a positive definite Hamiltonian in quantum mechanics, exploring its definition, implications, and related questions. Participants examine the mathematical properties of positive definite operators and their relevance in quantum mechanics, particularly in the context of Hamiltonians and eigenvalues.

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  • Some participants propose that a Hamiltonian is positive definite if it can be expressed as H = Q†Q, where Q is an operator.
  • Others argue that positive definiteness means all eigenvalues are real and positive, and that expectation values are also positive.
  • A later reply questions whether there are theorems or results that can determine if the eigenvalues of a given Hamiltonian are positive definite, noting the complexity of finding exact solutions.
  • One participant mentions that in quantum mechanics, the spectrum of the Hamiltonian must be bounded from below to satisfy the positive definiteness condition.
  • Another participant discusses the requirement of normal ordering in quantum field theory to ensure the expectation value of the Hamiltonian is positive definite, referencing the treatment of creation and annihilation operators.
  • There is a suggestion that the original question may pertain specifically to nonrelativistic quantum mechanics.

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Participants express differing views on the definition and implications of positive definite Hamiltonians, with no consensus reached on a singular definition or approach. Multiple competing perspectives remain regarding the mathematical and physical interpretations.

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Some limitations include the dependence on specific mathematical definitions and the unresolved nature of how various conditions affect the positive definiteness of Hamiltonians in different contexts.

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Can anybody explain what is meant by positive definite Hamiltonian? All I know is that if a Hamiltonian can be factorized as
[tex] H={Q}^{\dagger}Q[/tex]
then that Hamiltonian is one such example. But I am not sure if that is the definition of a positive definite Hamiltonian. In the quantum mechanical context what is meant by a positive definite operator, that also is not clear to me.
After Google search I found there is something called positive definite operator in mathematics, defined as: the operator A is a positive definite operator if for all non-null vector x,
[tex] xAx>0[/tex]
But clearly the definition/concept used in quantum mechanics is a bit different.
 
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It's not different at all.

Since you are talking about quantum mechanics let me use my favorite, bra-ket notation. I assume you are familiar with it (if not just shout and I'll rewrite my post in matrix notation).
The example of the Hamiltonian you gave is
[tex]H = Q^\dagger Q[/tex].
Now if x is any Hilbert space vector, then
[tex]\langle x | H | x \rangle = \langle x | Q^\dagger Q | x \rangle = \langle Q x | Q x \rangle > 0,[/tex]
where in the last equality, I had the conjugated operator work to the left ([itex]\langle x | A^\dagger = \langle A x |[/itex]) and then used that for Qx nonzero, the inner product is strictly positive.

I hope this makes it look more familiar and you see the connection.
 
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Positive definite means that all the eigenvalues are real and positive.
A consequence of this is that any expectation value <x|H|x> is positive.
The Q*Q example you give is a special case that is positive definite, but not true for most positive definite H.
 
Thanks for the responses.
I have a related question. Suppose I know the Hamiltonian corresponding to a Schroedinger equation. Is there any theorem/result which can be used to tell if the eigenvalues will be positive definite or not? I assume that the exact solution of the equation is not possible.
 
arroy_0205 said:
Thanks for the responses.
I have a related question. Suppose I know the Hamiltonian corresponding to a Schroedinger equation. Is there any theorem/result which can be used to tell if the eigenvalues will be positive definite or not? I assume that the exact solution of the equation is not possible.

First of all, the Hamiltonian H is a Hermitian operator (which implies that all its eigenvalues are real). You can then look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive-definite_matrix and read the set of equivalent conditions under the 'characterizations' sub-topic. Perhaps the simplest 'theorem' that you can use is that when diagonalized, the diagonal entries of H are its own eigenvalues. But if you want to determine whether H is positive definite without going through this exercise, then you will have to use the other equivalent conditions given on that page.
 
"But clearly the definition/concept used in quantum mechanics is a bit different"

In QM we require that the spectrum is bounded from below.
 
arroy_0205 said:
Can anybody explain what is meant by positive definite Hamiltonian? All I know is that if a Hamiltonian can be factorized as
[tex] H={Q}^{\dagger}Q[/tex]
then that Hamiltonian is one such example. But I am not sure if that is the definition of a positive definite Hamiltonian. In the quantum mechanical context what is meant by a positive definite operator, that also is not clear to me.
After Google search I found there is something called positive definite operator in mathematics, defined as: the operator A is a positive definite operator if for all non-null vector x,
[tex] xAx>0[/tex]
But clearly the definition/concept used in quantum mechanics is a bit different.
In order that [tex]\langle{\alpha}H{\alpha}\rangle[/tex], to be positive definite, i.e. the expectation value of Hamiltonian to be positive definite, we have to write all the annihilation operators to the right, and all the creation operators to the left. In this way, the Hamiltonian can be factorized as what you wrote down, and the energy expectation value is positive definite.

In usual QFT, we often use the so-called normal ordering to ensure this. Actually, what we did is throw away the cosmological constant term into the field which is in charged of quantum gravity. In string theory, besides imposing the normal ordering condition, we have to add a undetermined constant to account for the ordering ambiguity. It turns out the in the critical dimension, D = 26, the anomaly (constant from normal ordering) is zero.

By the way, the Hamiltonian must be written as the products of creation fields and annihilation fields because this ensures the cluster decomposition principle. This can be found in Weinberg's chap 4.
 
ismaili said:
In order that [tex]\langle{\alpha}H{\alpha}\rangle[/tex], to be positive definite, i.e. the expectation value of Hamiltonian to be positive definite, we have to write all the annihilation operators to the right, and all the creation operators to the left. In this way, the Hamiltonian can be factorized as what you wrote down, and the energy expectation value is positive definite.

Nice idea.

As for the rest, I think the OP's question was about nonrelativistic quantum mechanics
 

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