What is 'cluster point' in french?

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The discussion revolves around the translation and definition of the term "cluster point" in the context of French mathematical literature. Participants explore various terms used in mathematics, particularly focusing on their meanings and implications in set theory and topology.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks the specific term for "cluster point" as used in French mathematical texts.
  • Another participant suggests that "cluster point" translates to "valeur d'adhérence" based on a Wikipedia search.
  • A participant explains the definition of an adherent point and its relationship to cluster points, raising a question about the French term for "adherent point."
  • Another participant proposes "point d'accumulation" as a possible translation for "adherent point."
  • One participant discusses the definitions of accumulation points and their relationship to cluster points, noting that not all cluster points are accumulation points.
  • A suggestion is made to consult a French/English math dictionary for clarification.
  • A participant expresses surprise at the existence of such a dictionary.
  • Another participant requests clarification on the definition of "cluster point."
  • A formal definition of a cluster point is provided in French, including examples and equivalences related to accumulation points.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the relevance of the provided website but acknowledges it as a useful resource.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the exact terminology or definitions, with multiple competing views and interpretations presented throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved distinctions between the terms "cluster point," "adherent point," and "accumulation point," with participants highlighting their specific definitions and relationships without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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I'm not talking about how you would personally translate it.. I'm asking what is 'cluster point' in the french mathematical literature (textbooks).
 
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I believe it's "aaleur d'adhérence". All I did is wikipedia "Cluster Point" and then I clicked "français" on the left.
 
In english, an adherent point for a set E is a point x for which "for each epsilon>0, the epsilon-ball centered on x contains at least one point of E". This implies in particular that every point of E is adherent. So even if we consider the image of a sequence, {x1,x2,...}, every cluster point is adherent but not every adherent point is a cluster point.

So if cluster point = valeur d'adhérence, I wonder what "adhenrent point" is in french!
 
Point d'accumulation
 
'Point d'accumulation' runs into the same "problem" as 'valeur d'adhérence' because as defined for a set, an accumulation point of a subset A of a metric space M is a point a of M for which for all e>0, [itex](B_{\epsilon}(a)\backslash \{a\})\cap A\neq \emptyset[/itex] (i.e. every open ball centered on a contains points of A other than a).

So even if we apply this concept to the image of the sequence, every accumulation point is a cluster point but not every cluster point is an accumulation point. For instance consider the constant sequence 1,1,1,... 1 is a cluster point but the set of all accumulation points of the image, {1}, is void.
 
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Have you considered peeking at a math french/english dictionary at some library?
 
This thing exists?!
 
How do you define "cluster point"?
 
If {x_n} is a sequence in a metric space M, then a clsuter point of {x_n} is a point a of M such that there is a subsequence of {x_n} converging to a.
 
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Soit E un espace topologique. A une partie non vide de E, et aE. On dit que le point a est un point d'accumulation de A s'il est adhérent à A sans être isolé dans A. Autrement dit, a est un point d'adhérence de A-{a}.

Exemple : A=[0,1[, 1 est un point d'accumulation.

Si E est un espace métrique (en particulier un espace vectoriel normé), on montre facilement que les points suivants sont équivalents :

a est point d'accumulation de A
il existe une suite injective de points de A convergeant vers a.
tout voisinage de a contient une infinité de points de A.
Ceci montre en particulier que l'ensemble des points d'accumulation de A est un fermé.

Taken from DicoMath (french website)
 
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I don't see how this helps but nice site, thx.
 

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