What is Energy? Is it Tangible or Physical?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of energy, questioning whether it is tangible or physical. Participants explore various interpretations of energy, its properties, and its manifestations in different contexts, including theoretical and conceptual frameworks.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that energy is not a tangible object but rather a property of physical bodies, as illustrated by examples like kinetic and potential energy.
  • Others argue that energy can be perceived in tangible forms, especially when it transforms into other states, such as heat or kinetic energy.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about the concept of energy, suggesting it may not be clearly defined or understood, and relates it to historical perspectives on matter and elements.
  • Another viewpoint emphasizes that energy is an abstract idea that manifests in various concrete forms, such as mass and heat, and is subject to conservation laws.
  • Some participants discuss the flow of energy and its transformation, noting that energy can change forms during interactions between objects.
  • A contrasting opinion states that matter is a form of energy, implying that humans and all matter are essentially made up of energy.
  • There is a clarification regarding the notion of "pure energy," with some participants distinguishing between material energy and non-material energy.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether energy is tangible or physical. Multiple competing views are presented, with some emphasizing its abstract nature and others its tangible manifestations.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various interpretations of energy, with some participants expressing uncertainty about its definition and implications. There are references to philosophical perspectives and historical concepts that may influence the understanding of energy.

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Is energy a tangible thing? Is energy a physical object? IF it isn't, then what is it?
 
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Depends what you mean by tangible, you can buy and sell it which probably makes it a tangible asset to an accountant!
We normally think of it as a property of a body, so if you throw a ball it has gained kinetic energy, if you put it on a higher shelf you have given it potential energy - but you haven't changed the nature of the ball
 
Energy is not an object, it is largely a bookkeeping quantity - a property of objects.
 
Energy is more then just a property.
There is not just kinetic and potential energy.
In fact every particle, every atom is a form energy.
e.g. if a hydrogen atom comes in contact with an anti matter hydrogen atom, both atoms will turn into photons. If those photons then hit an object they will be absorbed and turn into heat energy. That heat energy can then be converted into kinetic energy. etc.
So energy can be very tangible if it's in the right form.
 
A book on energy I read years ago started with the sentence
Energy does not make sense.
It is a sentiment I somewhat agree with in that deep down I don't really understand it, nor in fact anything and I know this is a sentiment shared by many others.Arguably energy may be tangible in that it is perceptible by touch and it may be real but I do not think it is clear and definite.
The ancient Greeks referred to earth,fire air and water and today,by analogy,we may refer to matter, energy, space and time and
part of the ongoing business of physics is establishing links between these big four and although great advances have been and may continue to be made this does not necessarily add to our understanding of what they really are.
(Wow...I have cracked it..time is water)
 
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Energy, space, time, pain, love, ... none of these words refer to any particular thing. The meanings of these words are given by their use in the language (Wittgenstein, Philosophical Investigations).
 
Here's an experiment to demonstrate the conversion of gravitational potential energy into kinetic energy, and then converting that kinetic energy into mechanical work, and using that mechanical work to break molecular bonds. Hold a cement block high in the air and drop it on your foot.
 
I'm no expert, but here's my thinking on energy. The real experts can correct me.

Energy is an abstract idea that takes many concrete forms: mass, momentum, heat, position in a field, etc.

Energy has the property of being conserved. So if you add up all forms and let some time pass, then no matter what happens, the sum will not change (in a closed system).

Energy flows, i.e., it moves from one object to another (e.g., the flow of heat energy from a hot to a cold object, or one pool ball hitting another). When energy flows it often changes form (e.g., from infrared radiation to "heat" (actually, internal energy)).

Whenever a net force acts on an object (causing an acceleration), energy flows.

And there is no possibility of a being made out of "pure energy". (I add this because one often hears the idea in sci-fi or religion.)
 
But matter is simply energy, so infact, we are made up of pure energy, in the form of matter.
 
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You're right. I should have said "pure energy" in the sense of non-material energy (with no rest mass).
 

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