What Is General Physics 1 Like?

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The discussion centers around the experience and expectations of taking General Physics 1 (Calculus version), including the types of questions encountered, the mathematical methods required, and the relationship between physics and calculus courses. Participants share their feelings of nervousness, provide advice, and discuss the course's content and structure.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses nervousness about taking General Physics 1 and seeks examples of questions typical for the course.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of regular study, following instructions, and understanding basic equations to succeed in the course.
  • A question is posed regarding the acceleration of two balls thrown by different kids, prompting discussion about the calculus methods needed to analyze the problem.
  • Some participants suggest that basic derivatives are the primary calculus application needed, while others note that algebra and trigonometry will be more heavily relied upon in problem-solving.
  • There is a discussion about the prerequisites for the physics sequence, with varying opinions on the necessity of Calculus 1 and Calculus 2, as well as other mathematical concepts like linear algebra and differential equations.
  • Some participants argue that the calculus knowledge serves more as a supplement to understanding physics concepts rather than being strictly necessary for problem-solving in Physics 1.
  • Others mention that the requirements may vary depending on the instructor and institution, highlighting the variability in course structure and expectations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of opinions regarding the mathematical prerequisites for Physics 1 and the extent to which calculus is utilized in the course. There is no clear consensus on the necessity of specific calculus topics or the relationship between physics and calculus courses.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the practical requirements for the calculus-based physics series may be less than what is ideal, suggesting that additional mathematical knowledge could be beneficial. The discussion also highlights the variability in course difficulty between Physics 1 and Physics 2.

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I am about to take General Physics 1 (Calculus version) in the spring and I am nervous. What is it like? Can you post an example of the kind of questions I will be given in Physics 1.
 
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Buy the textbook and take a peek. :smile:
 
Ricster55 said:
I am about to take General Physics 1 (Calculus version) in the spring and I am nervous. What is it like? Can you post an example of the kind of questions I will be given in Physics 1.
This course is tough - very tough. Do not be nervous! Pay attention, follow instructions, study REGULARLY, and THINK. You must learn to follow instructions, read and reread parts of the chapter sections as many times and whenever those times needed to get enough understanding, even while doing homework exercises. Remind yourself and decide which of the basic equations you are presented are needed, and trust your algebra.
 
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Two kids throw a ball at the same initial vertical velocity V0y. Kid 1 throws the ball upwards while Kid 2 throws the ball horizontal at a velocity V0(x).
Which ball experiences the greater acceleration the moment the balls leave the hands of each Kid? Assume they throw the balls at the same T1 = 0 seconds.

Honestly if you're comfortable with math and love solving interestingly worded problems that has more to it than what meets the eye, then you'll have fun learning the material :)
 
Thewindyfan said:
Two kids throw a ball at the same initial vertical velocity V0y. Kid 1 throws the ball upwards while Kid 2 throws the ball horizontal at a velocity V0(x).
Which ball experiences the greater acceleration the moment the balls leave the hands of each Kid? Assume they throw the balls at the same T1 = 0 seconds.

Honestly if you're comfortable with math and love solving interestingly worded problems that has more to it than what meets the eye, then you'll have fun learning the material :)

What calculus method do I need to apply this question?
 
jtbell said:
Buy the textbook and take a peek. :smile:

I wasn't assigned a textbook yet
 
Ricster55 said:
What calculus method do I need to apply this question?
The only, if necessary, calculus application for this problem is derivatives. But you can't answer this problem if you don't know the basics of projectile motion, or at least free fall motion to be honest.
 
Ricster55 said:
What calculus method do I need to apply this question?
Basic derivatives, and only conceptual aspects of the use of Integrals for Physics 1 - Mechanics. Most of what you will use in problem solving will be intermediate algebra and basic trigonometry. Yes, the course is Calculus-based, but this part of the series of courses will rely mostly on algebra and basic Trigonometry for most problem-solving. You will be learning to use vectors. Physics 2 - E&M will be much more calculus-rich in what you need for problem-solving and for concepts.
 
Does the Physics sequence go something like this: For Physics 1, you will need Calculus 1 and for Physics 2, you will need Calculus 2.
 
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Ricster55 said:
Does the Physics sequence go something like this: For Physics 1, you will need Calculus 1 and for Physics 2, you will need Calculus 2.
To my knowledge, no.
In all honesty, calculus 1 serves more as a supplement to understand why the mathematical relationships you work with in physics 1 works. It helps you better understand the material overall.
Physics 2 I believe does become slightly calculus intensive, but I'm not sure how much of calculus 2 is required for Physics 2. You may just be right for that second one.
 
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Ricster55 said:
Does the Physics sequence go something like this: For Physics 1, you will need Calculus 1 and for Physics 2, you will need Calculus 2.

No. Technically, you should know some basic linear algebra and series for mechanics (calculus 2), further, you should probably also know some differential equations and partial derivatives. Most of what you haven't learn will be introduced, like vector topics.

For the second sequence, you should at least be concurrently enrolled in vector calculus.

Mileage may vary, depending on the instructor and class.
 
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Student100 said:
No. Technically, you should know some basic linear algebra and series for mechanics (calculus 2), further, you should probably also know some differential equations and partial derivatives. Most of what you haven't learn will be introduced, like vector topics.

For the second sequence, you should at least be concurrently enrolled in vector calculus.

Mileage may vary, depending on the instructor and class.
The practical and official requirements for the calculus-based Physics series courses for science & engineering major students are less than that. MORE mathematical knowledge is better than LESS mathematical knowledge. One may find a large change in difficulty from Physics 1 Mechanics to Physics 2 Electricity & Magnetism. Suddenly more difficult trigonometry, greater use of vectors, analytical geometry in 3D, and certainly some greater use of Calculus than in Physics 1.

If you chose Physics as your major field, then take Student100's advice.
 
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Ricster55 said:
Does the Physics sequence go something like this: For Physics 1, you will need Calculus 1 and for Physics 2, you will need Calculus 2.

It depends on the school. It's common for Calculus 1 to be a co-requisite for Physics 1, that is, you can take the two courses concurrently. Likewise for Calculus 2 and Physics 2. In this case the physics courses briefly cover calculus topics if they are encountered before the calculus course covers them. The calculus is used mainly for conceptual purposes (simplifying derivations etc.), and problem-solving uses mainly algebra and trig, as symbolipoint stated.

Does the online course description for your Physics 1 course state that Calculus 1 is co-requisite or pre-requisite?
 
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