What is meant when it is said that a molecule is excited?

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The discussion centers on the concept of molecular excitation, particularly how it relates to the excitation of electrons within molecules, and the different states a molecule can occupy. Participants explore the similarities and differences between excited atoms and excited molecules, including the effects of various types of radiation on molecular states.

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  • Some participants propose that exciting a molecule is similar to exciting an atom, but becomes more complex due to the involvement of electrons in bonds and non-bonded electrons.
  • It is suggested that excitation can lead to anti-bonding orbitals and involves concepts like chromophores, which absorb light in the visible to ultraviolet spectrum.
  • One participant notes that a molecule can exist in many states, with the excited state being any state other than the ground state, and highlights the additional degrees of freedom in molecules compared to atoms.
  • Different types of radiation can excite molecules in various ways: microwave radiation can cause rotational excitation, infrared radiation can excite vibrational modes, and visible or ultraviolet light can elevate electrons to higher electronic states.
  • There is acknowledgment that the initial post may have been ambiguous, and participants clarify that different forms of radiation affect molecular excitation in distinct manners.

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Participants generally agree on the basic concept of molecular excitation but express differing views on the specifics of how various types of radiation affect molecular states and the implications of these excitations.

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Some limitations include the complexity of molecular interactions, the dependence on specific definitions of excitation states, and the unresolved details regarding the effects of molecular bonds on rotational excitation.

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I know what an exited atom is : any of it's electron is elevated from the ground state. But I can't really figure out what is an excited molecule (e.g diene of polyene)...
I have read molecules like diene or polyene can be excited and they absorb light wave for this as atoms do to send some of their electrons to higher energy level.
Is it something like , hmm...the molecular orbital is enlarged so that the shared electrons can enjoy extra freedom (higher energy) or something else?
I think you have understood the problem.
 
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Well, exciting a molecule is pretty much the same concept as exciting an atom. It just gets a little more complicated when you do it to electrons in bonds, or to non-bonded electrons on an atom bonded to other atoms.

The electrons in molecule bonds have excitation states they can be pushed into by the absorption of light just like non-bonded electrons. Of course, this leads to anti-bonding orbitals and such, as well as the concept of chromophores, organic molecules that absorb in the visible to ultraviolet spectrum.

So it's technically not the molecule, but the electrons within the molecule that are excited, just like with atoms I suppose.

Which, that absorption and the re-emission are taken advantage of for all kinds of molecular absorption spectrometry.
 
Ahmed Abdullah said:
I know what an exited atom is : any of it's electron is elevated from the ground state. But I can't really figure out what is an excited molecule

A molecule can exist in many many states. One of these is the ground state. If the molecule is in any other state than the ground state, it is said to be in an excited state or, simply, excited.

Because a molecule consists of more than one atom, it has more degrees of freedom than a single atom: a molecule can rotate and vibrate. If you shine microwave radiation of the correct frequency on a molecule, it can be rotationally excited. Infra-red radiation excites the vibrational modes. Much higher frequencies (visible light, ultraviolet light) may excite the molecule into a higher electronic state.
 
Feh, shouldn't have typed my first post out just after waking up from a nap, as it came out ambiguous and confusing sounding, to me at least.

As pkleinod pointed out, there are different ways a atoms (and by extension molecules) can be excited. Visible light and higher frequencies have an effect on the electrons themselves, pushing them into higher states. Infrared causes the whole molecule to vibrate, and microwave and lower frequency radiation causes the molecule/atoms to spin (which can be prohibited by molecular bonds in some cases, presumably causing other effects).
 

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