What is so beautiful about Euler's Identity?

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The discussion revolves around the perceived beauty of Euler's Identity, \( e^{i\pi} + 1 = 0 \), exploring its significance in mathematics and the reasons behind its aesthetic appeal. Participants share their perspectives on the equation's simplicity, depth, and connections to various mathematical concepts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants highlight that Euler's equation combines five fundamental constants (0, 1, e, i, and π) into a single equation, suggesting that this simplicity and depth contribute to its beauty.
  • Others argue that the beauty lies in the fact that the constants originate from different branches of mathematics, such as algebra, calculus, and geometry.
  • A participant points out that the equation incorporates all four fundamental mathematical operations: addition, multiplication, exponentiation, and equality, leading to a seemingly impossible result.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the equation's beauty, feeling that it appears random and lacks deeper insights, despite acknowledging its shock value.
  • Another participant mentions that the equation is easy to remember and simplifies complex mathematical concepts.
  • Some participants question the use of the term "beautiful," suggesting alternative descriptors like "unbelievable" or "wacky," while others share personal ratings of beauty for various mathematical equations.
  • A participant reflects on the historical context of beauty in mathematics, referencing Hardy's "A Mathematician's Apology" and expressing intrigue in the structural integrity of mathematics rather than its beauty.
  • Another participant states that they do not concern themselves with beauty, focusing instead on the practical problem-solving capabilities of mathematical concepts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the beauty of Euler's Identity, with no consensus reached. Some find it beautiful for its simplicity and connections across mathematics, while others are skeptical or indifferent to the concept of beauty in mathematics.

Contextual Notes

Participants' views on beauty are influenced by personal experiences and interpretations of mathematical aesthetics, which may vary significantly. The discussion reflects differing attitudes towards the significance of beauty in mathematics and its impact on understanding mathematical concepts.

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I'm a pretty novice Physicist/Mathematician, but I've got a few offers for good universities, to show you my general level of knowledge.

Could someone please explain in terms I will understand why this equation is considered so perfect and beautiful?
 
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What is so beautiful about the Mona Lisa?

Euler's equation, e^{i\pi}+ 1= 0, which can also be written e^{i\pi}= -1, combines five fundamental constants, 0, 1 (or -1), e, i, and \pi into a single, simple, equation. Simplicity and depth make for beauty.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
What is so beautiful about the Mona Lisa?

Euler's equation, e^{i\pi}- 1= 0 combines four fundamental constants, 0, 1, e, and \pi into a single, simple, equation. Simplicity and depth make for beauty.

Error! Should be + 1 = 0, not -1.
 
'Tis true... both of the above.
 
I think that the "beauty" is in the fact that the constants are from very different branches of mathematics. 0, 1 and i are from algebra, e is from calculus/analysis, and \pi is from geometry.
 
HallsofIvy said:
What is so beautiful about the Mona Lisa?

Euler's equation, e^{i\pi}+ 1= 0 combines four fundamental constants, 0, 1, e, and \pi into a single, simple, equation. Simplicity and depth make for beauty.

And in combining those fundamental constants it uses each of the 4 fundamental math operations: Addition, multiplication, exponentiation and equality.

All to arrive at a result that seems impossible.

How can that be anything but beautiful?
 
Why does no one mention the i, is there nothing special about imaginary numbers or something?
 
Am I the only one who isn't in awe of this equation?

When I first saw it, it seemed random and just didn't make any sense, like those infinite sum formulas of Ramanujan (...one over pi equals WHAT?). But then after I studied complex analysis, and the more I learn in math, the more pedestrian and booring it becomes. It seems to just be a random consequence of much bigger ideas, and it doesn't lead to any insights by itself.

I've thought about this a few times and tried to "see the beauty" but as far as I can tell all the awe is based purely on shock value and nothing deeper.
 
It's easy to remember and makes a lot of otherwise tough math easy.
 
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why so hung upon the word beautiful? try unbelievable, or wacky, or unexpected, or sexy, or what ever, but at least it ain't boring.
 
  • #11
I've never seen an equation that put me in "awe", but this is a pretty cool one. And it only gets better when you find uses for it.
 
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I've never found anything in mathematics to be beautiful. The concept of beauty in mathematics traces back to Hardy's A Mathematician's Apology and is based on a more-or-less Late 19th/Early 20th Century sense of aesthetics.

Nevertheless, this equation has always intrigued me, since it gives us a sneak peek into the structural integrity of Mathematics as an academic discipline.
 
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I always don`t get it. To me, if it can solve problems, and extend new ideas, then i like it. I don` t bother with 'beauty'.
 
  • #14
If you ask me, something is beautiful when it's stimulating and seemingly simple (women excluded of course! eyo!)
Euler's identity is, to me, a 7. A\; =\; \pi r^{2} is like a 3. e=mc^{2} is about a 9. The Lorentz factor is a perfect 10, if you ask me. =]
Simplified complexity... mmmm...
 

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