What is the area of a parallelogram without knowing the height?

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The discussion revolves around finding the area of a parallelogram without knowing the height, using given dimensions and angles. Participants explore various methods and formulas applicable to the problem, including the use of trigonometric functions and relationships between the sides and angles of the parallelogram.

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  • One participant seeks to find the area of a parallelogram given dimensions of 1/2, 1/2, √2/4, and √2/4, without knowing the height.
  • Another participant asks if any angles are known, leading to the revelation that angles E and K are 45 degrees, while angles h and g are 135 degrees.
  • A method is proposed to calculate the area using the formula A = a*b*sin(C), where a and b are the lengths of two non-parallel sides and C is the angle between them.
  • Clarification is sought regarding which sides to use in the calculation, emphasizing the need for two non-parallel lengths and the angle between them.
  • Participants discuss specific calculations, including A = (1/2)(√2/4)sin(135) and alternatives involving different angles and side lengths.
  • One participant suggests that the area can also be calculated as the length of one side times the perpendicular distance to the opposite side, leading to a proposed area of 1/8 of a square unit.

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Participants explore multiple approaches to calculating the area, with no consensus on a single method or final answer. Various formulas and interpretations of the dimensions and angles are discussed.

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Participants rely on specific dimensions and angles, but there may be assumptions about the relationships between these elements that are not fully explored. The discussion does not resolve the potential ambiguity in the application of different formulas.

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I am working on a task right now. I am currently trying to find the area of a parallelogram. I do not have the height. I only have the dimensions. I have tried suggestions like dividing the parallelogram into triangles and doing 1/2bh. The dimensions I have are the 1/2,1/2,\sqrt{2}/4, \sqrt{2}/4. I have attached a picture of what I am working on. View attachment 2736
 

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jljarrett18 said:
I am working on a task right now. I am currently trying to find the area of a parallelogram. I do not have the height. I only have the dimensions. I have tried suggestions like dividing the parallelogram into triangles and doing 1/2bh. The dimensions I have are the 1/2,1/2,\sqrt{2}/4, \sqrt{2}/4. I have attached a picture of what I am working on. View attachment 2736

Do you have any of the angles?
 
Prove It said:
Do you have any of the angles?
Yes, Angle E and K are 45 degrees, and angles h and g are 135 degrees.
 
jljarrett18 said:
Yes, Angle E and K are 45 degrees, and angles h and g are 135 degrees.

OK since you have the lengths of two non-parallel sides of the parallelogram (call them "a" and "b") and the angle between them (call it "C") you can find the area using $\displaystyle \begin{align*} A = a\,b\sin{(C)} \end{align*}$.
 
My parallelogram has two pairs of parallel sides so which sides am I using?
 
jljarrett18 said:
My parallelogram has two pairs of parallel sides so which sides am I using?

I said use two non-parallel lengths of the parallelogram and the angle between them.
 
So I would do A= (1/2)(√2/4)Sin(135) ?
 
jljarrett18 said:
So I would do A= (1/2)(√2/4)Sin(135) ?

Yes you could do that. You could also do $\displaystyle \begin{align*} \frac{1}{2}\cdot \frac{\sqrt{2}}{4} \cdot \sin{ \left( 45^{ \circ} \right) } \end{align*}$ :)
 
jljarrett18 said:
So I would do A= (1/2)(√2/4)Sin(135) ?
Alternatively, you could use the fact that the area of a parallelogram is the length of one side times the perpendicular distance between that side and the opposite side. In this case, the length of the vertical sides is $\frac12$, and the perpendicular distance between them is $\frac14$.
 
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So the answer would be 1/8?
 
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jljarrett18 said:
So the answer would be 1/8?

1/8 of a square unit, yes :)
 
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Thank you!
 

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