What is the Best Element for Coupled Field Analysis with ANSYS?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around selecting the appropriate element type for conducting a coupled field analysis in ANSYS, specifically for fluid-structure interaction involving a thin polyethylene film. The focus is on identifying a suitable 2D element that accommodates specific degrees of freedom, including rotational freedom.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant is seeking advice on the proper 2D element for modeling a thin, flexible polyethylene film in a coupled fluid-structure interaction analysis, emphasizing the need for degrees of freedom UX, UY, and ROTZ due to the film being pinned on both sides.
  • Another participant suggests ensuring the use of an element that supports hyperelasticity, noting that excessive deflections may occur depending on the applied loads.
  • A different participant inquires about the feasibility of conducting a coupled analysis with a 2D FLUENT analysis and a 1D structural analysis, proposing the use of SHELL208 line elements that provide ROTZ as a degree of freedom and support hyperelasticity.
  • One participant expresses their novice status with ANSYS and suggests seeking additional resources, such as the ANSYS customer portal for knowledge and examples.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have not reached a consensus on the best element to use, and multiple competing views regarding the appropriate modeling approach and element types remain. The discussion is unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully explored the implications of using different element types, such as the requirements for thickness in shell elements or the specific conditions under which hyperelasticity is necessary.

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I am trying to do a coupled field analysis, FLUID-Structure interaction. Wind strikes normally a panel covered by a very thin and flexible material that is polyethylene film and displacement of the film is what i need. The analysis is 2D. I create the flotran environment but when it comes to the structural one i am a little bit confused. That is because I am trying to find the proper 2D element for the film area that must have DOFs UX,UY AND ROTZ... that is because the film is both sided pinned (the need for rotz). I can solve the problem by using plane or solid elements no 2D element of this kind has rotational (rotz) degree of freedom. Shell elements do but i am a little bit confused with the thickness that is demanded (i need x direction to be ny thickness) ...what is the proper element to use?

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I'm not sure exactly, but make sure you use an element which supports hyperelasticity, because depending on your loads, you may have some excessive deflections.
 
thanks Minger. Do you know if i could do a coupled analysis where the one is a 2D flotran analysis and the 2nd a structural analysis 1D...maybe i could use SHELL208 line elements that provide rotz as DOF and have hyperelasticity...but is this possible...??
 
I'm pretty novice at ANSYS (only been working for a few months), and don't really know enough about element types to provide any useful information. Do let us know if you get it working though.

One suggestion is to register for the customer portal www1.ansys.com/customer IIRC, where they have a knowledge base and lots of example input files and such. All else fails, give em a call.
 

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