What is the condition for destructive interference in thin films?

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The discussion revolves around the conditions for destructive interference in thin films, specifically involving light interacting with a glass pane of thickness T and refractive index n. Participants are examining the relationship between the thickness of the film and the wavelength of light, as well as the effects of phase changes upon reflection.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are exploring the conditions for destructive interference, questioning the application of the equation 2T = mλ and its implications for different values of m. There is also a discussion on the impact of phase reversals during reflection and how they affect the conditions for interference.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants clarifying their understanding of the equations involved and the conditions for interference. Some guidance has been provided regarding the role of phase changes upon reflection, but no consensus has been reached on the correct interpretation of the equations.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of thin film interference, including the need to consider both path length differences and phase changes due to reflection at boundaries with different refractive indices. There is an acknowledgment of the constraints imposed by the definitions of m in the equations for interference.

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Homework Statement


Light of wavelength [tex]\lambda[/tex] strikes a pane of glass of thickness T and refractice index n, as shown in figure(I attached a diagram I made). Part of the beam is reflected off the upper surface of the glass, and part is transmitted and then reflected off the lower surface of the glass. Destructive interference between these two beams will occur if :
a) T = [tex]\lambda[/tex] / 2
b) 2T = [tex]\lambda[/tex] / 2
c) T = [tex]\lambda[/tex] / 2n
d) 2T = [tex]\lambda[/tex] / 2n

Homework Equations



2T= m[tex]\lambda[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


According to this equation, destructive interference occurs when 2T = [tex]\lambda[/tex] /2. Right? Since [tex]\lambda[/tex] = [tex]\lambda[/tex] [tex]_{0}[/tex] / n, then 2T= [tex]\lambda[/tex] / 2n right? The correct answer is C though. I got answer D. What am i doing wrong. Thanks
 

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Hi premed,

In section 3 you have remarked that destructive interference occurs when [itex]2 T = \lambda/2[/itex]. How did you find this? In your relevant equations section, you had already stated that the conditions for destructive interference was given by [itex]2 T = m \lambda[/itex].

In that equation, m is an integer (with appropriate restrictions) and [itex]\lambda[/itex] is the wavelength in the film; I don't think you can get [itex]2 T = \lambda/2[/itex] from that unless m=1/2 which is not allowed.
 
Sorry. I'll clarify. The book gives the equation for constructice interfence as 2T=m[tex]\lambda[/tex] where m is an integer. For destructice interference 2T = (m+1/2)[tex]\lambda[/tex] . that's why i put in 2T = [tex]\lambda[/tex] /2. The m in this case doesn't matter as long as 2T is not an integral multiple of [tex]\lambda[/tex] because it is destructive interference. I set m = 0 so that's how I got 2T = [tex]\lambda[/tex] /2. Does that make sense?
 
Hi premed,

With thin film interference you have two things you have to keep track of: the effects of the path length difference of the two light rays, and the effects of reflection on the phase of the light rays.

When a light ray reflects off a material with a higher index of refraction, it experiences a phase reversal. Whether [itex]2T = m\lambda_n[/itex] (where [itex]\lambda_n[/itex] is the wavelength in the film) is the constructive or destructive condition depends on how many phase reversals there are in the problem (0, 1 or 2).

So how many phase reversals occur? What does that by itself do to the relative phase of the light rays? Once you have that information, then the condition

[tex] 2 T = m \lambda_n[/tex]

will leave their relative phase (from the reflection effects) unchanged, and

[tex] 2 T = (m+\frac{1}{2}) \lambda_n[/tex]

moves them out of phase an additional 180 degrees.
 

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