What Is the Connection Between Buoyancy and Apparent Mass?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of buoyancy and apparent mass in a scenario involving a beaker of water and a submerged rock. The calculations show that the total mass measured by the scale after the rock is submerged is 4.54 kg, which includes both the mass of the beaker and the rock's apparent weight. Confusion arises regarding the role of buoyant force in determining the apparent mass, as one participant believes that tension should solely represent the rock's apparent weight. The explanation clarifies that the scale measures the combined effects of buoyant force and the weight of the water, as per Newton's third law. The inconsistency in gravitational acceleration values used in calculations is also noted as a potential source of confusion.
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Homework Statement
A cylindrical beaker of mass mb = 1.3 kg contains 1.5 x 10^3 ml of water. The beaker is placed on a scale and then a rock of mass mr = 2.2 kg, suspended by a massless string, is totally immersed in the water. The water level rises by 1.5 cm. The diameter of the beaker is 0.2m
a) What mass does the scale measure before the rock is lowered into the water?
b) What mass does the scale measure after the rock is lowered into the water?
Relevant Equations
F=mg
my solution:
a)
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F(upward)=Fb +Fw
=(1.3+1.5)X9.8
=27.44N
total Mass = 2.8kg
b)
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Volume increased = π(0.2/2)^2 x 1.5/100
=4.7x10-4 m^3

T+Fb =mg
T=mg-Fb
T=2.2x9.8 -1000 x 4.7x10-4 x 9.8
T=17.4N
T is the apparent weight of the rock, so the mass of the rock in the water is 1.74kg
So, the total mass measured by the scale = 1.74 +2.8 = 4.54kg

Question:
I am confused about the part b after I checked the answer. For me, I think the tension represents the apparent weight of the rock. So apparent mass of the rock can be obtained by the tension. But, In the answer, buoyant force is considered as the extra weight added to the scale. That confuses me and I don’t understand why.

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TkoT said:
Homework Statement:: A cylindrical beaker of mass mb = 1.3 kg contains 1.5 x 10^3 ml of water. The beaker is placed on a scale and then a rock of mass mr = 2.2 kg, suspended by a massless string, is totally immersed in the water. The water level rises by 1.5 cm. The diameter of the beaker is 0.2m
a) What mass does the scale measure before the rock is lowered into the water?
b) What mass does the scale measure after the rock is lowered into the water?
Relevant Equations:: F=mg

That confuses me and I don’t understand why.
Without the rock the scale reads just the weight of the water, ##m_{\text{water}}g##. When the rock is placed under water, the water exerts buoyant force BF up. By Newton's 3rd law, the rock exerts force BF down on the water. The scale reads the sum of the two because it must exert normal force ##N=BF+m_{\text{water}}g## up to keep the water from accelerating.
 
You seem to be using 9.8m/s2 for g in some places and 10m/s2 in others.
 
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