What is the Correct Direction of Velocity in the Texas Tumblers Circus Act?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving projectile motion, specifically related to a circus act where a performer swings from a trapeze and is supposed to be caught at a certain height and distance. The problem includes calculations of velocity components and angles based on given initial conditions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of velocity components and the resulting angle of velocity. There are questions regarding the accuracy of the values used for calculations, particularly the horizontal and vertical components of velocity.

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Some participants have provided calculations and attempted to clarify the relationships between initial velocity, velocity components, and the resulting angle. There is an ongoing exploration of potential errors in calculations and the need for precision in values used. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup and calculations are being considered.

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Participants note discrepancies in values and the importance of significant figures in calculations. There is mention of the problem being sourced from a textbook and the challenges faced with an online physics homework system.

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Homework Statement



A new circus act is called the Texas Tumblers. Lovely Mary Belle swings from a trapeze, projects herself at an angle of 53 ^\circ, and is supposed to be caught by Joe Bob, whose hands are 6.1 {\rm m} above and 8.2 {\rm m} horizontally from her launch point (the figure ). You can ignore air resistance.

For the initial speed calculated in part A, what is the direction of her velocity when Mary Belle reaches Joe Bob?

Additionally I have v_0 is 14 m/s, v=8.4 m/s, v_x= 8.42, v_y=1.17

Homework Equations



Im using arctan=(v_y/v_x) which gives me 7.9 degrees which is wrong

The Attempt at a Solution



arctan=(v_y/v_x) which gives me 7.9 degrees which is wrong
 
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mnafetsc said:
Additionally I have v_0 is 14 m/s, v=8.4 m/s, v_x= 8.42, v_y=1.17
How did you calculate the velocity? How can v_x, a component, be greater than v?
 
sqrt)v_x^2+v_y^2

my actual answer was 8.5 but mastering physics rounded it down to 8.4
 
I meant how did you solve for v based on the initial velocity? How did you solve for v_y? (I get different values for v and v_y, and thus for the angle.)
 
v_x=14cos53= 8.42

V_y=13sin53- 9.8(8.6/8.42)=1.17

These two answers then gave me 8.4 according to mastering physics, which was the answer to part B of this problem

I got t for the v_y equation from x=v_0 cos (theta) t
which I used to help me find the initial velocity for part A of this problem.
 
mnafetsc said:
v_x=14cos53= 8.42
This looks OK. (Assuming I understand the problem.)

V_y=13sin53- 9.8(8.6/8.42)=1.17
This seems to have a few errors. (At least going by the info in your first post.)

The data seems a bit off.
 
I meant 14 but I did replace that 8.6( bad reading on my part) with 8.2 which gave me a new v_y of 1.64

so arctan=(1.64/8.42) gives me 11 degrees above the horizontal which is still wrong
 
mnafetsc said:
I meant 14 but I did replace that 8.6( bad reading on my part) with 8.2 which gave me a new v_y of 1.64

so arctan=(1.64/8.42) gives me 11 degrees above the horizontal which is still wrong
To delve into things further, I'll need to know the complete statement of the problem. If I understand you, the initial velocity is 14 m/s at an angle of 53 degrees with the horizontal. From that point on it's a projectile that's supposed to reach +6.1 for y and + 8.2 for x. Why don't you check and see if that's possible? You figured out the the time based on the horizontal distance traveled. What height would it reach in that time?

(Is this a problem from a textbook? Or just on the online system?)
 
This is the complete problem statement:

A new circus act is called the Texas Tumblers. Lovely Mary Belle swings from a trapeze, projects herself at an angle of 53 ^\circ, and is supposed to be caught by Joe Bob, whose hands are 6.1 {\rm m} above and 8.2 {\rm m} horizontally from her launch point (the figure ). You can ignore air resistance.

part A:What initial speed v_0 must Mary Belle have just to reach Joe Bob?

correct answer is 14 m/s

part B:For the initial speed calculated in part A, what is the magnitude of her velocity when Mary Belle reaches Joe Bob?

correct answer 8.4 m/s

part C:For the initial speed calculated in part A, what is the direction of her velocity when Mary Belle reaches Joe Bob?

part I am stuck at

Also, I plugged in time I got and it gave me y= 6.11 so roughly the same as the given
This is a book problem I am doing on masteringphysics
 
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OK, I found this problem in Young and Freeman. What you'll need to do is not round anything off (except when giving your answers). So recalculate the initial velocity to at least 3 significant figures (don't round off to 14) for the purpose of doing the other parts of the problem. Then you'll probably do OK. Slight inaccuracies make a big difference in the angle.

You're not the first to have a problem with Mastering Physics. It can be very picky.
 
  • #11
Doc Al said:
OK, I found this problem in Young and Freeman. What you'll need to do is not round anything off (except when giving your answers). So recalculate the initial velocity to at least 3 significant figures (don't round off to 14) for the purpose of doing the other parts of the problem. Then you'll probably do OK. Slight inaccuracies make a big difference in the angle.

You're not the first to have a problem with Mastering Physics. It can be very picky.

Haha just to be safe I decided not to round at all and got the answe 8.9 still wrong, but I used 3 sigfigs and got 9.2 which it accepted for 9.1 thanks for your help.

Im just glad to know it was mastering physics this time and not me.
 

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