MHB What is the derivative of ln(x + √(1 + x^-25))?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the derivative of the function f(x) = x^3 - 5x^2 + 4x - e^(x^0). Participants clarify that e^(x^0) simplifies to e, a constant, which leads to a derivative of zero for that term. The correct application of the exponential and chain rules is emphasized, ensuring that the derivative of the entire function is computed accurately. The first derivative calculated is 3x^2 - 10x + 4, and assistance is sought for the derivative of ln(x + √(1 + x^-25)). The conversation highlights the importance of careful interpretation of constants and derivatives in calculus.
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I have to derivate this function:

$$x^3-5x^2+4x-e^x$$ where $x$ on e is actualy $x^0$,but i don't know how to write it here...
i know how to derivate other terms,just this e is suspicious,because its a complement of the function if i am right...

Another derivate i have to calculate is:

$$ln(x+\sqrt{1+x^{-25}}$$

Thank you all for the help!
 
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Just so we're clear, you are given:

$$f(x)=x^3-5x^2+4x-e^{x^0}$$

Right?

Note: In $\LaTeX$, to create an exponent having more than 1 character, enclose that exponent in curly braces, in the above I used the code e^{x^0}.
 
MarkFL said:
Just so we're clear, you are given:

$$f(x)=x^3-5x^2+4x-e^{x^0}$$

Right?

Note: In $\LaTeX$, to create an exponent having more than 1 character, enclose that exponent in curly braces, in the above I used the code e^{x^0}.
Yes,you are right! So i have learned something new :D
 
Can you simplify $e^{x^0}$?
 
MarkFL said:
Can you simplify $e^{x^0}$?

Its $e$1
 
wishmaster said:
Its $e$1

Is this true for $x=0$?
 
MarkFL said:
Is this true for $x=0$?

So then $x$ is zero,and $e$ is also $0$ ?
 
wishmaster said:
So then $x$ is zero,and $e$ is also $0$ ?

No, $e$ is a transcendental constant (like $\pi$), but what I was getting at, can we say:

$$e^{x^0}=e$$

when $x=0$ ?

In other words, can we state $0^0=1$ ?
 
MarkFL said:
No, $e$ is a transcendental constant (like $\pi$), but what I was getting at, can we say:

$$e^{x^0}=e$$

when $x=0$ ?

In other words, can we state $0^0=1$ ?

So then remains just $e$ when i derivate?
 
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wishmaster said:
So then remains just $e$ when i derivate?

No, apply the exponential and chain rules:

$$\frac{d}{dx}\left(e^{f(x)} \right)=e^{f(x)}\frac{d}{dx}\left(f(x) \right)$$

What do you find?
 
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MarkFL said:
No, apply the exponential and chain rules:

$$\frac{d}{dx}\left(e^{f(x)} \right)=e^{f(x)}\frac{d}{dx}\left(f(x) \right)$$

What do you find?

$$e * 0 $$ ?
 
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wishmaster said:
$$e * 0 $$ ?

Correct, and any constant times zero is zero.

You would get the same result if you assume $e^{x^0}=e$, since the derivative of a constant is zero, but I wanted you to be careful, as I felt the intent of the author of the problem was to not make that assumption.
 
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MarkFL said:
Correct, and any constant times zero is zero.

You would get the same result if you assume $e^{x^0}=e$, since the derivative of a constant is zero, but I wanted you to be careful, as I felt the intent of the author of the problem was to not make that assumption.

Just to mention, $e$ represents natural number.

My solution for the first one is $$3x^2-10x+4$$

Can you help me with second one?
 

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