What is the difference between TIC and alkalinity?

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The discussion centers on the differences between Total Inorganic Carbon (TIC) and alkalinity, exploring their definitions, components, and measurement conventions. Participants examine the chemical constituents of each and the implications for measurement in various contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that TIC includes H2CO3/aquous CO2, HCO3-, and CO32-, while alkalinity is described as consisting of acid-neutralizing compounds, primarily HCO3- and CO32-.
  • Another participant mentions that not everyone defines alkalinity as equivalent to CaCO3, with some using Na2O as a reference instead.
  • A participant questions whether alkalinity still encompasses all acid-neutralizing components, suggesting that OH- should also be included alongside HCO3- and CO32-.
  • Further elaboration is provided on the meaning of alkalinity in the context of neutralization titrations, with a focus on how different alkaline compounds can be measured and their equivalence to Na2O.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definition of alkalinity, particularly regarding its equivalence to CaCO3 versus Na2O. The discussion remains unresolved as to whether all acid-neutralizing components are universally accepted in the definition of alkalinity.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the definitions provided, particularly regarding the assumptions made about the equivalence of alkalinity to specific compounds and the potential inclusion of various acid-neutralizing species.

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Hey there,

What is the difference between Total Inorganic Carbon (TIC) content and alkalinity?

When I am reading it says that the TIC consists of:
- H2CO3 / aquous CO2
- HCO3-
- CO32-

And it says that alkalinity consists of all acid-neutralizing compounds, portayed as CaCO3, but consisting of:
- HCO3-
- CO3 2-

Does that mean that the only difference is that the TIC also consists of H2CO3 / CO2 concentration, whereas alkalinity only consists of HCO3- and CO32-.

Are there any other acid-neutralizing components that could add to alkalinity that I am missing?
 
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Not everybody takes the convention for alkalinity equivalent to CaCO3. Some people expect and use alkalinity equivalent to Na2O.
 
Thanks. What does that mean concretely for what you are exactly measuring? Does it not remain to be all acid-neutralizing components? So HCO3-, CO3 2- and OH-?
 
TvEp said:
Thanks. What does that mean concretely for what you are exactly measuring? Does it not remain to be all acid-neutralizing components? So HCO3-, CO3 2- and OH-?
I feel sure about the meaning of Total Inorganic Carbon, but I will avoid saying what this is, exactly. But for the meaning of alkalinity, if you are in a community or group which uses this to mean, "equivalents to sodium oxide", then this would be linked to what one would find if to do a neutralization titration. Something alkaline may be measured and then dissolved in water. An acid titrant is used to neutralize to some desired endpoint, and the number of moles of Hydronium ions can be computed. Then, the amount of Na2O which was titrated can also be computed.

Many compounds may be alkaline and can be neutralized with an acid titrant. Example, Na3PO4. Dissolved in water, the solution takes on a pH higher than 7. Not the same as Na2O, but that does not matter. Take a measured sample, titrate, and just assume you neutralized Na2O.
 

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