What is the dust-to-gas ratio in oxygen-poor galaxies?

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The discussion revolves around the dust-to-gas ratio in oxygen-poor galaxies, particularly focusing on the formation of silicate dust and its implications in the interstellar medium (ISM). Participants explore the concept of dust-to-gas ratios, how they can be measured, and the variability of these ratios across different types of galaxies.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the largest possible silicate dust-to-gas ratio in mass, specifically in the context of silicates composed of magnesium (Mg) and iron (Fe).
  • One participant mentions the composition of the ISM, highlighting that it consists mainly of hydrogen and helium, with small quantities of heavy elements and silicate dust.
  • Another participant suggests that the dust-to-gas ratio can be found in literature, referencing a paper on the variation between dust and gas in the diffuse ISM.
  • A participant provides a non-advanced explanation, discussing the aftermath of the Theia collision and how it may relate to dust formation, suggesting that there is no upper limit to the dust-to-gas ratio.
  • One participant references an article from Sky & Telescope, noting that the dust-to-gas ratio varies with the metallicity of galaxies, providing specific examples of ratios in different galaxies.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the dust-to-gas ratio, with some seeking clarification and others providing insights. There is no consensus on a specific value for the dust-to-gas ratio, and multiple viewpoints on its measurement and implications are present.

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Participants mention the uncertainty in the percentages of dust-to-gas ratios, particularly in relation to different galaxies' metallicity. The discussion reflects a range of assumptions and lacks definitive calculations or established values.

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Hello,
Assuming that dust is formed by silicates with Mg and Fe. What is the largest possible silicate dust-to-gas ratio in mass?
 
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newgate said:
Hello,
Assuming that dust is formed by silicates with Mg and Fe. What is the largest possible silicate dust-to-gas ratio in mass?

hi

well since you have used an A tag, I assume you are a university post graduate.
What research have you do some far on this very vague topic you have posted ?

What dust to gas ratio are you talking about ?Dave
 
Hi Dave,
Now I'm just reading something about interstellar medium ISL and what I find is that the ISM constituted by gas and dust. The gas is mainly composed by hydrogen and helium and also small quantities of heavy elements! The dust is composed by small grains of solid materials namely silicates. And during lectures I faced "dust to gas ratio" but I don't know what is it and how to calculate it!
 
Any help?
 
Not my field but Google can find papers with titles such as. "Variation between dust and gas in the diffuse interstellar medium". Seems to have lots of info on the methods used to measure and calculate the ratio.
 
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newgate said:
Hello,
Assuming that dust is formed by silicates with Mg and Fe. What is the largest possible silicate dust-to-gas ratio in mass?

I'll give this a non advanced answer.

The Earth and Moon exist. They have similar composition. After Theia collided with Earth there was a cloud of silicate material around earth. There would have been very little gas in that cloud.
Some photos like hubble's pillars of creation show material clumping together in space while also being subjected to an intense stellar radiation and wind. I can imagine there are many circumstances where small planetoids made of silicates are blown more slowly than gas molecules. That allows for high concentrations of silicates.
The zodiacal dust is low in gas.

There is no upper limit to the ratio.
 
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See the feature article on oxygen-poor galaxies in the https://www.skyandtelescope.com/sky-and-telescope-magazine/inside-april-2018-issue/ issue of Sky & Telescope.

The dust-to-gas ratio varies with the metallicity of a galaxy. For giant galaxies, like the Milky Way, the dust-to-gas ratio is on the order of 1%. For the Magellanic Clouds, which are smaller than the Milky Way and thus more metal-poor, the dust-to-gas ratio is lower. And for the most metal-poor galaxies, such as I Zwicky 18, the dust-to-gas ratio is roughly 0.001%, as stated in the Sky & Telescope article, which also includes a color image of the galaxy. Note, though, that this percentage is somewhat uncertain.
 
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