What is the equilibrium distance between atoms in a two-atom molecule?

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The discussion revolves around determining the equilibrium distance between atoms in a two-atom molecule using a specific potential energy model. The potential energy function is given, and the original poster attempts to find the distance at which the molecule is in stable equilibrium.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss setting the potential energy to zero to find equilibrium distance, with some questioning the implications of this approach. There is also exploration of the relationship between potential energy and force, and the conditions for stable equilibrium.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaged in exploring the connections between potential energy, force, and equilibrium. Some guidance has been provided regarding the interpretation of potential energy and its zero point, as well as the conditions for equilibrium, though there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

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There are indications that the zero of potential energy is set arbitrarily, and participants are considering the implications of this in their calculations. The discussion also touches on the need to differentiate between stable and unstable equilibrium.

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One model for the potential energy of a two-atom molecule, where the atoms are separated by a distance r, is U(r)=U0[(r0/r)13-(r0/r)9] where r0=0.85nm and U0=6.2eV. What is the distance between the atoms when the molecule is in stable equilibrium?

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I set U(r)=0 b/k it's stable equilibrium and solved for r which gave me r0 which is incorrect. Any ideas?
 
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hi getty102! :smile:
getty102 said:
U(r)=U0[(r0/r)13-(r0/r)9]

I set U(r)=0 b/k it's stable equilibrium and solved for r which gave me r0 which is incorrect. Any ideas?

the zero of potential energy is arbitrary

in this case, it has been deliberately set to 0 at r = ro

what is the connection between potential energy and force?
 
F(req) = -[U0'[(ro/req)13-(r0/req)9][((-13r013)/req14)+(9r09)/req10] ?
 
(just got up :zzz:)
getty102 said:
F(req) = -[U0'[(ro/req)13-(r0/req)9][((-13r013)/req14)+(9r09)/req10] ?

yes, except Uo is a constant, and your Uo' should just be Uo :wink:

and now what is the connection between force and equilibrium? :smile:

(btw, we don't usually write "eq" until the last line of the proof, it's too confusing)
 
When F(r) = 0, stable equilibrium?
 
getty102 said:
When F(r) = 0, stable equilibrium?

well, equilibrium of some sort (whether it's stable is another question) :smile:

so you're looking for U' = 0, and for U'' … … ? :wink:
 

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