What Is the Fundamental Frequency of a Modified Stretched Wire?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a stretched wire vibrating in its first normal mode, with specific changes to its length, diameter, and tension. Participants are exploring how these modifications affect the fundamental frequency of the wire.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the formula for frequency but questions their calculations regarding the effects of changing the wire's length, diameter, and tension. Some participants clarify the relationship between diameter and radius, while others discuss the implications of the factors in the frequency equation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's calculations and reasoning. There are multiple interpretations of how to handle the factors in the frequency formula, and some guidance has been offered regarding the correct application of these factors.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of the problem as stated, including the specific changes to the wire's dimensions and tension. There is an emphasis on ensuring that the relationships between the variables are accurately represented in the calculations.

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Homework Statement


A stretched wire vibrates in its first normal mode at a frequency of 369Hz. What would be the fundamental frequency if the wire were one third as long, its diameter were tripled, and its tension were increased two-fold?

Homework Equations



f = 1/2L * squareroot(Ft/u)

The Attempt at a Solution


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Can someone explain what I've done wrong?

369 = 1/2L * Sroot(Ft/u)

L is 1/3, so 1/2L becomes 3/(2L)

The Ft is doubled, but the u needs to be broken down further.
m/l = u
l is 1/3
m = dv
d stays the same, so v is the relevant one.
V = pi r2h
r is tripled, so the V increases by a factor of 9. However, since the h (aka l) also changes by a third. Total change of V is x3.

so, 3*m / (l/3)
All together,
Sroot ( 2Ft / (9u)

However, 369 * (3/2) * Sqroot (2/9) is wrong. ( = 260.922402258)

Thanks.
 
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You had a factor of 1/2L. Now you have a factor of 3/2L. So you don't multiply by 3/2.
 
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Diameter is tripled

In the formula for V , r is the radius , so since diameter is tripled, radius goes up by x1.5.
 
Radius and diameter are in proportion. If one is tripled, so is the other.
 
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mjc123 said:
You had a factor of 1/2L. Now you have a factor of 3/2L. So you don't multiply by 3/2.
Oh would you multiply by 3 only? Since the 1/2 was already apart of the equation?

ALso, does the remaining work with the square root seem right?

Thanks.
 
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Yes
 
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mjc123 said:
Yes
Thanks a lot!
 

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