What is the hardest general profession to get into initially?

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The discussion revolves around identifying the hardest general profession to enter initially. Participants explore various fields and the challenges associated with them, including educational requirements, competition, and unique barriers to entry.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that becoming a doctor is one of the hardest professions due to high competition and rigorous training.
  • Others suggest that the definition of "hardest" can vary, depending on whether it refers to preparatory work or actual job placement challenges.
  • Several participants mention unconventional professions, such as actor, supermodel, and president, as being difficult to enter.
  • One participant humorously suggests that being a drug dealer or pimp is hard due to territorial competition.
  • Another participant mentions the Pope as a challenging position to attain, citing strict qualifications and low turnover.
  • A participant notes that the role of the Pope may not fit the criteria of a general profession.
  • A New York Harbor Pilot is mentioned as a difficult profession to enter, requiring familial connections.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on what constitutes the hardest profession, with no consensus reached on a single field. The discussion includes both serious and humorous suggestions, reflecting differing perspectives on the criteria for difficulty.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not settled on a clear definition of "hardest," leading to varied interpretations and examples that may not align with traditional views of professions.

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I would say a doctor. You have thousands of people applying every time, 3.6 gpa'ers + mcat'ers. what could be harder? and then what next? brutal medical school and 24/7 studying!
 
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It depends on your definition of "hardest." Do you mean:

1) Requiring the most difficult preparatory school work, or
2) Being the most difficult field to find an actual position in?

- Warren
 
It is not a trick question. I just want opinions. It can be both of the things you've mentioned.

WardenOfTheMint.
 
actor
 
Supermodel.
 
President?
 
Drug dealer/pimp. The streets are owned, so in order to sell drugs or pimp you'll have to drive away another dealer/pimp.
 
a necromancer, hey necromancy is kinda hard.
 
Cyrus said:
Drug dealer/pimp. The streets are owned, so in order to sell drugs or pimp you'll have to drive away another dealer/pimp.

According to Showtime, it's pretty easy if you're female and hot.

- Warren
 
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what said:
President?

I don't know. While the positions are limited, there also is a fairly small applicant pool, a lot of job turnover, and sometimes just reapplying a few years later will get you the job.
 
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OK, I'm going to shoot high, here. Pope. 1/2 of the population can't make the cut because of gender problems and of the males, who wants to be a priest, and who is (traditionally) European, and so deeply involved in Vatican politics to withstand the vetting and voting?

Obviously all non-Catholics are out, as are all devout Catholics who are not already (supposedly) male, celibate, ordained Vatican insiders at the rank of cardinal or above. It's pretty much an appointment for life, so turn-over is low.

Dalai Lama is another tough job position to get. I took up golf to improve my chances (heavy hitter) with no luck.
 
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Well, I could point out that the OP inquired about general professions, and I don't think "being the Pope" qualifies. On the other hand, this is GD. :biggrin:

- Warren
 
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chroot said:
Well, I could point out that the OP inquired about general professions, and I don't think "being the Pope" qualifies. On the other hand, this is GD. :biggrin:

- Warren
Extrapolation (OK, thread hijacking) to extremes is expected here. Everything not forbidden is mandatory.
 
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New York Harbor Pilot. You have to be a relative (usually son) of a present pilot.
 

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