What is the history of calculating Pi with random objects?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the historical and experimental methods of calculating Pi using random objects, particularly through the act of throwing items like toothpicks or hot dogs. The scope includes conceptual exploration and references to mathematical problems related to this method.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests a method for calculating Pi by throwing frozen hot dogs, acknowledging its potential inaccuracy but finding it amusing.
  • Another participant expresses practical limitations, noting their kitchen's size and the weather as barriers to trying the method.
  • A participant proposes the idea of creating a YouTube video based on the method, referencing a familiar problem from Griffith's quantum mechanics text involving toothpicks.
  • One participant questions the underlying logic of the experiment, speculating that the object used may not be perfectly circular and suggesting that multiple throws could simulate an n-sided polygon, with more throws leading to a closer approximation of Pi.
  • A later reply corrects the initial speculation, stating that the length of the object corresponds to the diameter and that the number of crossings relates to random angles, indicating a misunderstanding in the initial logic.
  • Another participant references Buffon's Needle Problem, indicating that the concept has historical roots beyond the current discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various ideas and questions about the method and its historical context, but there is no consensus on the effectiveness or accuracy of the proposed methods for calculating Pi.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the shape and behavior of the objects used in the experiments remain unaddressed, and the discussion reflects a mix of familiarity with mathematical concepts and practical experimentation.

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Dang! Our kitchen is too small to try it.
And I'm not going outside in this weather.
 
Is this an idea for a YouTube video? :biggrin:

The process of throwing toothpicks across a ruled sheet of paper sounded familiar... that was from a problem in Griffith's QM text.
 
What is the nutshell logic behind this study? Where in the experiment is PI manifesting itself?

My suspicion is that the object is not perfectly circular but mutliple thrwos makes it simulate an n-sided polygon - the more throws, the larger n is, the closer to PI it will be.

[ EDIT ] Duh. No. The length of the obect is equal to diameter, the number of times it crosses the line represents a random angle 0-360 degrees. [ /EDIT ]
 
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