What is the Initial Population of Bacteria in a Culture?

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The discussion revolves around determining the initial population of bacteria in a culture, given that the population increases at a rate proportional to its current size. Participants explore the mathematical modeling of this growth using exponential functions and derive equations based on population changes over specific time intervals.

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  • One participant states the population growth can be modeled by the equation $$P(t)=P_0e^{kt}$$ and provides specific population changes between time intervals.
  • Another participant reiterates the equations derived from the population changes and suggests proceeding to find the initial population $$P_0$$.
  • There is a question about determining the value of $$k$$, which is acknowledged as needing algebraic determination.
  • A participant provides a detailed algebraic manipulation of the first equation to express $$P_0$$ in terms of $$k$$, leading to a substitution into the second equation to find $$k$$.
  • One participant expresses gratitude for the guidance provided, indicating a collaborative effort in solving the problem.

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Participants generally agree on the approach to model the population growth and the equations involved, but there is no consensus on the specific values of $$P_0$$ and $$k$$ as they remain to be determined through further calculations.

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The discussion includes algebraic manipulations that depend on the assumptions made about the form of the population growth model and the values of $$k$$ and $$P_0$$, which have not yet been resolved.

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Assume the population of bacteria in a culture increases at a rate proportional to the current population. The population increased by 2455 from t = 2 to t = 3 and by 4314 from t = 4 to t =5. Find the initial population and how many times does the population increase each unit of time?

I don't really understand what I'm supposed to do.
 
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We know the population will take the form:

$$P(t)=P_0e^{kt}$$

We are then given:

$$P(3)-P(2)=2455$$

$$P(5)-P(4)=4314$$

This will give you 2 equations and 2 unknowns...can you proceed to find the initial population $P_0$?
 
MarkFL said:
We know the population will take the form:

$$P(t)=P_0e^{kt}$$

We are then given:

$$P(3)-P(2)=2455$$

$$P(5)-P(4)=4314$$

This will give you 2 equations and 2 unknowns...can you proceed to find the initial population $P_0$?

What would be the k value?
 
rayne said:
What would be the k value?

This would also have to be algebraically determined. Let's look at the first equation I gave:

$$P(3)-P(2)=2455$$

This then becomes (using the definition of $P(t)$):

$$P_0e^{3k}-P_0e^{2k}=2455$$

Now, if we factor on the left, we obtain:

$$P_0e^{2k}\left(e^k-1\right)=2455$$

And solving for $P_0$ we then get:

$$P_0=\frac{2455}{e^{2k}\left(e^k-1\right)}$$

Now, if we state the second equation I gave, we have (after factoring):

$$P_0e^{4k}\left(e^k-1\right)=4314$$

At this point we may substitute for $P_0$ that we obtained above:

$$\frac{2455}{e^{2k}\left(e^k-1\right)}e^{4k}\left(e^k-1\right)=4314$$

Now you may simplify, then solve for $e^k$, and then you can determine $P_0$.
 
MarkFL said:
This would also have to be algebraically determined. Let's look at the first equation I gave:

$$P(3)-P(2)=2455$$

This then becomes (using the definition of $P(t)$):

$$P_0e^{3k}-P_0e^{2k}=2455$$

Now, if we factor on the left, we obtain:

$$P_0e^{2k}\left(e^k-1\right)=2455$$

And solving for $P_0$ we then get:

$$P_0=\frac{2455}{e^{2k}\left(e^k-1\right)}$$

Now, if we state the second equation I gave, we have (after factoring):

$$P_0e^{4k}\left(e^k-1\right)=4314$$

At this point we may substitute for $P_0$ that we obtained above:

$$\frac{2455}{e^{2k}\left(e^k-1\right)}e^{4k}\left(e^k-1\right)=4314$$

Now you may simplify, then solve for $e^k$, and then you can determine $P_0$.

Oh, thank you! I got a bit lazy to try everything out.
 

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