What is the Length of a Tensioned String?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the length of a tensioned string based on the time it takes for a pulse to travel its length and the tension provided by a weight. The context includes concepts from wave mechanics and tension in strings.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to relate the speed of the wave on the string to its length and tension using the equation v=√(F/u). Some participants question the validity of the original poster's calculations and the implications of the simplicity of the final answer.

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Participants are engaging in a back-and-forth discussion about the calculations and the underlying concepts. Some guidance has been offered regarding the reasoning, but there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the original poster's approach or the next steps to take.

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The original poster notes that this type of question was not directly covered in their notes, indicating potential gaps in understanding or application of the concepts involved.

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Homework Statement


A pulse takes 0.1s to travel the length of a string. The tension in the string is provided by passing the string over a pulley to a weight which has 100 times the mass of the string.
What is the length (L) of the string?
What is the equation of the third normal mode.

Homework Equations


v=√(F/u) u=m/L


The Attempt at a Solution


We have L/t = √(100.m.g/(m/L) where g = surface gravity

So 100L^2 = 100gL
so L= magnitude(g) = 9.8 m

This type of question was not covered directly in our notes and I am unsure if my working is correct.
Thanks for any help.
 
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Reasoning seems fine to me - notice how the number end up all nice?
Did you do the next bit?
 
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It was the simplicity in the final answer that made me doubt it.
Thank you, but what is LQ?

y_3 = (A_3)sin(n.pi.x/L)cos((w_n)t)

We have 1.5 waves in a time of 0.1s. So w = 30.pi radians
I don't see how I can get the amplitude.

So y = A sin(3.pi.x/9.8)cos(30.pi.t)
 
(where w is angular frequency)
 
but what is LQ?
A spelling mistake. Thanks.

angular frequency is radiens per second.
I don't see how I can get the amplitude.
me neither.
It was the simplicity in the final answer that made me doubt it.
I suppose with all the computer-randomized problems you get these days, nice numbers must be rare.

Note: cannot comment on answers as such - only methods and reasoning.
 

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