I What is the limit in size that two particles/objects can be entangled?

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The discussion centers on the limits of entanglement between particles and larger objects, emphasizing that the limit is not strictly based on size but rather on the ability to control quantum phase space influenced by interactions, time, and temperature. It is noted that entangling larger and heavier objects becomes feasible at very low temperatures, short time scales, and in conditions of absolute vacuum to minimize interactions. The complexity of controlling entanglement increases with the size of the objects involved, similar to managing multiple trailers while driving. The conversation highlights that while there may not be a definitive size limit, practical challenges arise as the scale increases. Overall, the feasibility of entangling larger systems depends on specific experimental conditions rather than an absolute size constraint.
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What is the limit in size that two particles/objects can be entangled?

With the double slit experiment, I know that there are matter waves, of large size - not just individual photons.

So can a matter wave be entangled with another one, or even just a single particle with the matter wave?

Thanks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter_wave

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=matter+wave+double+slit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement
 
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jaketodd said:
What is the limit in size that two particles/objects can be entangled?
The limit is not in size, but in reachable quantum phase space (given the relevant interactions, time, and temperature).
(And it is probably not a hard limit either, but an impossibility of the sort of a control chain. A simple model of such a control chain would be that you have to try to control the value of some variable by controlling its n-th (time) derivative, when all you can observe directly is the value itself. For sufficiently big n, this is impossible in practice, despite the absence of a "biggest n" which still can be controlled in theory.)
 
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gentzen said:
The limit is not in size, but in reachable quantum phase space (given the relevant interactions, time, and temperature).
(And it is probably not a hard limit either, but an impossibility of the sort of a control chain. A simple model of such a control chain would be that you have to try to control the value of some variable by controlling its n-th (time) derivative, when all you can observe directly is the value itself. For sufficiently big n, this is impossible in practice, despite the absence of a "biggest n" which still can be controlled in theory.)
That's way over my head. Please break it down if possible. Thanks
 
jaketodd said:
That's way over my head. Please break it down if possible. Thanks
If you work at very low temperature, then you can entangle very large and heavy objects. And if you work on very short time scales, then you can live with shorter decoherence times, and hence "entangle" larger and heavier objects. ... And if you work in absolute vacuum, and can suppress nearly all possible interactions, then again entangling larger and heavier objects gets possible.
(Additionally, it is hard to come-up with absolute limits for control tasks. Take some simple control example, like driving a car with a trailer backwards. And then imagine not just one trailer, but a chain of n-trailers. At some point this control task will simply overwhelm you, even if there is no fixed theoretical limit.)
 
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gentzen said:
If you work at very low temperature, then you can entangle very large and heavy objects. And if you work on very short time scales, then you can live with shorter decoherence times, and hence "entangle" larger and heavier objects. ... And if you work in absolute vacuum, and can suppress nearly all possible interactions, then again entangling larger and heavier objects gets possible.
(Additionally, it is hard to come-up with absolute limits for control tasks. Take some simple control example, like driving a car with a trailer backwards. And then imagine not just one trailer, but a chain of n-trailers. At some point this control task will simply overwhelm you, even if there is no fixed theoretical limit.)
Awesome! Thanks!
 
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