What is the limit of (a^n)/n for a>1?

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The discussion centers on the limit of the sequence ##\frac{a^n}{n}## for ##a > 1##. Participants explore various methods to prove that this limit approaches infinity, including basic calculus techniques, the ratio of successive terms, and alternative mathematical approaches.

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  • One participant asserts that the limit is ##+\infty## and suggests using L'Hopital's rule, but seeks a more basic proof without derivatives.
  • Another participant defines the sequence as ##b_n = \frac{a^n}{n}## and uses the ratio of successive terms to argue that the sequence diverges to infinity.
  • A question is raised about the validity of the ratio test for sequences, with references to its application in series.
  • Further clarification is provided that if a series converges, then its terms must approach zero, implying divergence for the sequence in question.
  • One participant proposes a proof using the binomial theorem, showing that ##a^n/n## grows without bound as ##n## increases.
  • Another participant suggests a comparison of growth rates by rewriting ##a## and analyzing the resulting expression, indicating that the sequence diverges through a doubling process versus linear growth.

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Participants express various methods and reasoning, but there is no consensus on a single approach or proof method. Multiple competing views and techniques are presented without resolution.

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Some participants reference the ratio test for sequences and series, but the applicability of such tests to sequences remains unclear. The discussion includes various assumptions and methods that may not be universally accepted.

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The limit of the sequence ##a^n/n## for ##a>1## is ##+\infty## but how to prove it without reverting to limit of functions and using L'Hopital rule.
We have the limit of the sequence ##\frac{a^n}{n}## where ##a>1##. I know it is ##+\infty## and i can prove it by switching to the function ##\frac{a^x}{x}## and using L'Hopital.

But how do i prove it using more basic calculus, without the knowledge of functions and derivatives and L'Hopital.

I can prove that the sequence is increasing (after a certain ##n_0##) but have trouble proving that the sequence is not bounded. More specifically
$$\frac{a^n}{n}>M\Rightarrow n\ln a-\ln n>\ln M$$ and where do i go from here?
 
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Let ##b_n=a^n/n##. The ratio of successive terms ##b_{n+1}/b_n=a\left(\frac{n}{n+1}\right)## tends to ##a>1## as ##n\to\infty##, so the sequence diverges to infinity (and by the "ratio test", this tells us the even stronger statement that ##\sum_{n=1}^\infty b_n^{-1}## converges.)
 
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Which theorem is that ?(if the ratio of successive terms has limit >1 then the sequence diverges) . I know the ratio test for series, but haven't heard of a ratio test for sequences.
 
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Which theorem is that ?(if the ratio of successive terms has limit >1 then the sequence diverges) . I know the ratio test for series, but haven't heard of a ratio test for sequences.

He uses the theorem you mention, together with the fact that if ##\sum_n x_n## converges, then ##x_n \to 0##.
 
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Math_QED said:
He uses the theorem you mention, together with the fact that is ##\sum_n x_n## converges, then ##x_n \to 0##.
Ok I see now thanks, due to ratio test ##\sum \frac{1}{b_n}## converges hence ##\frac{1}{b_n}\to 0## hence ##b_n\to +\infty## since ##b_n## is strictly positive.
 
Yes, like @Math_QED said, it follows from the test for series. I don't know if it has a separate name for sequences, but it's easy enough to prove: Let ##c_n## be a sequence of positive terms, and suppose ##c_{n+1}/c_n## has limit(inf) ##T>1.## Pick ##L\in (1,T)##, and let ##N## be so that ##c_{n+1}/c_n>L## for ##n\geq N##. Then, for any ##m>N##, we have ##c_m=\left(\frac{c_m}{c_{m-1}}\right)\ldots\left(\frac{c_{N+1}}{c_N}\right)c_N> L^{m-N}c_N,## and this tends to infinity. And this comparison is how you prove the test for series anyway, since geometric series diverge/converge according to their common ratio.
 
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What about this? If a > 1, then write a = 1+h with h > 0.
Then by the binomial theorem, a^n > 1 + nh + n(n-1)/2h^2.
Hence a^n/n > 1/n + h + (n-1)/2. h^2 > (n-1)/2. h^2, which --> infinity as n does.
 
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This is another approach. Since a>1 , similar to Wonk, write it as 1+h; h>0. Then use logs or a rule of thumb like rule of 70 to find tge least power k with ##(1+h)^k=2 ## . Then you can see how for fixed values ##n_i*k## of ##n## , the ratio becomes:

##\frac{a^n}{n}=\frac{a^{n_i*k}}{n_ik}=\frac{2^{n_i}}{n_i*k}## I think from here, comparing a doubling process with a linear growth process, with a bit of work you can show the expression goes to infinity.
 
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