What is the magnitude of charge in nC on each bead?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the magnitude of charge on two charged spheres and the use of a spring to measure charge. The problem involves concepts from electricity and mechanics, specifically relating to forces, spring constants, and Coulomb's law.

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  • Participants discuss the application of Newton's second law and Coulomb's law to derive the charge on the spheres. There are attempts to calculate the spring constant and the forces involved in stretching the spring with charged beads. Some participants question the arithmetic and suggest using different units for easier calculations.

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Several participants have provided feedback on the calculations, indicating potential errors and suggesting re-evaluation of the arithmetic. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct approach to the problem, with some guidance offered regarding unit conversions and the use of physical constants.

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Participants note discrepancies in unit conversions and the need to clarify assumptions about the physical constants used in the calculations. There is also mention of the original poster's confusion regarding the value of the permittivity constant.

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[SOLVED] A few electricity problems

Homework Statement



1. Two 1.0 g spheres are charged equally and placed 2.0 cm apart. When released, they begin to accelerate at 225m/s^2.

What is the magnitude on each sphere.

2. You have a lightweight spring whose unstretched length is 4.0 cm. You're curious to see if you can use this spring to measure charge. First, you attach one end of the spring to the ceiling and hang a 1.0 g mass from it. This stretches the spring to a length of 5.0 cm. You then attach two small plastic beads to the opposite ends of the spring, lay the spring on a frictionless table, and give each plastic bead the same charge. This stretches the spring to a length of 4.5 cm.

What is the magnitude of the charge (in nC) on each bead?

Homework Equations



1. F=ma => (K)(q^2)/(r^2)

2. F = kx, (K)(q^2)/(r^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



1. q = [tex]\sqrt{(r^2)(m)(a)/(r^2)}[/tex]

q = [tex]\sqrt{(0.0001)(225)(0.002^2)/(9x10^9)}[/tex] = 3 x 10 ^-9 C

but it says this is incorrect

2.
First: I calculated the spring constant using the information from the hanging mass part of the question.

F = kx
(0.001 kg)(9.81 m/s^2)= k (0.01 m)
0.981 kg/s^2 = k

Second: Using the spring constant from the previous part I calculated the force needed to push the spring apart when the beads are on either end.

F = kx
F = (0.981 kg/s^2)(0.005 m)
F = 0.004905 kgm/s^2

Third: Using the force from above, and using coulombs law calculate the charges. I know that q1 and q2 are equal, q1 =q2 = q

F = K((q1)(q2))/r^2
0.004905 kgm/s^2 = ((9×10^9 Nm^2/C^2)(q^2)/(0.045 m)^2

q = 3.3 x 10 ^ -8 and now I need to convert it to nC so (3.3 x 10 ^ -8) x (10x9) = 33 nC

Is this correct?
 
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Your equation for #1 looks wrong. Try working it out using more intermediate steps. Your starting equation is correct:

[tex]ma = K \frac{Q^2}{R^2} = \frac{Q^2}{4{\pi}{\epsilon}R^2}[/tex]
 
cse63146 said:
q = [tex]\sqrt{(0.0001)(225)(0.002^2)/(9x10^9)}[/tex] = 3 x 10 ^-9 C

Should be 0.02

Your methods look correct. Perhaps redo the arithmetic? Since they are mostlly using CGS, why don't you use that to make the numbers easier to handle, and convert afterward?
 
berkeman said:
Your equation for #1 looks wrong. Try working it out using more intermediate steps. Your starting equation is correct:

[tex]ma = K \frac{Q^2}{R^2} = \frac{Q^2}{4{\pi}{\epsilon}R^2}[/tex]

how do I obtain the value to {\epsilon}?

Shooting star said:
Should be 0.02

Your methods look correct. Perhaps redo the arithmetic? Since they are mostlly using CGS, why don't you use that to make the numbers easier to handle, and convert afterward?

I also made a mistake on converting from g to kg, so 1g should be 0.001kg

so it should be:

q = [tex]\sqrt{(0.001)(225)(0.02^2)/(9x10^9)}[/tex] = 1 x 10 ^-7 C
 
Correct. But I still recommend that if the values are given mostly in CGS, do the calculation in CGS and convert. Avoid so many decimals, whenever possible. You'll make mistakes in the exam.
 
It seems easier to me this way.
 
cse63146 said:
how do I obtain the value to {\epsilon}?

You look it up. It's a physical constant.
 

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