What is the meaning behind this joyful Jewish song?

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The discussion revolves around participants sharing their favorite sad songs, exploring the emotional impact of various lyrics and melodies. The scope includes personal anecdotes, song interpretations, and reflections on the themes of loss and nostalgia present in the music.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express sadness over songs that deal with themes of loss, such as the drowning dog in one song.
  • Others share personal experiences, like singing sad songs to provoke emotional responses in siblings.
  • Several songs are mentioned, including "The Earth Song" by Michael Jackson and "Tears in Heaven" by Eric Clapton, noted for their emotional weight.
  • Some participants question the appropriateness of certain songs and their potential impact on listeners, particularly teenagers.
  • There are humorous exchanges about the nature of "emo" music and its association with sadness.
  • Participants reference a variety of genres and decades, indicating a broad range of musical influences and emotional connections.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the emotional resonance of the songs discussed, but there are multiple competing views on what constitutes a "sad" song and the reasons behind their emotional impact. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the subjective nature of sadness in music.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the emotional effects of specific songs and their interpretations, highlighting the personal nature of music appreciation.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in music, emotional expression through lyrics, and the cultural significance of songs related to sadness may find this discussion engaging.

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All right all you closet Emos, what are some of your favorite sad songs?

When I found out that this song was about a dog that drowned, it really made me sad. :cry:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5Wpn3dFrEs

Another day is at end
Mama says she's tired again
No one can even begin to tell her
I hardly know what to say
But maybe it's better that way
If Papa were here I'm sure he'd tell her

Shannon is gone I heard
She's drifting out to sea
She always loved to swim away
Maybe she'll find an island
With a shaded tree
Just like the one in our backyard

Mama tries hard to pretend
That things will get better again
Somehow she's keepin' it all inside her
But finally the tears fill our eyes
And I know that somewhere tonight
She knows how much we really miss her

Shannon is gone I heard
She's drifting out to sea
She always loved to swim away
Maybe she'll find an island
With a shaded tree
Just like the one in our back yard ...
Just like the one in our back yard ...
 
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I used to sing this to my little sister to make her cry.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdPR8gq3NsA
 
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On Top of Spaghetti

On top of spaghetti,
All covered with cheese,
I lost my poor meatball,
When somebody sneezed.

It rolled off the table,
And on to the floor,
And then my poor meatball,
Rolled out of the door.

It rolled in the garden,
And under a bush,
And then my poor meatball,
Was nothing but mush.

The mush was as tasty
As tasty could be,
And then the next summer,
It grew into a tree.

The tree was all covered,
All covered with moss,
And on it grew meatballs,
And tomato sauce.

So if you eat spaghetti,
All covered with cheese,
Hold on to your meatball,
Whenever you sneeze.
 


Counting Crows Murder of One
 
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Dolly Parton - Jolene

 
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Secret Garden - In Our Tears
 
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Many of Alice Cooper's songs. Am I confusing sad with disgusting? :devil:


Qualified: Former Alice Freak :biggrin:
 
Lacy33 said:
On Top of Spaghetti
Very sad.
 
Evo I knew there was some reason why I kept thinking your name was emo :)
 
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magpies said:
Evo I knew there was some reason why I kept thinking your name was emo :)
Emo Evo :frown:
 
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90's list:

Pearl Jam - Last Kiss


Verve Pipe - The Freshman


Eric Clapton - Tears in Heaven


Fiona Apple - Across the Universe


Radiohead - Exit Music for a Film


Gary Jules - Mad World
 
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So why did you pick your song emo... er... evo.
 
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magpies said:
So why did you pick your song emo... er... evo.
Which one?
 
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DavidSnider said:
90's list:

Pearl Jam - Last Kiss


Verve Pipe - The Freshman


Eric Clapton - Tears in Heaven


Fiona Apple - Across the Universe


Radiohead - Exit Music for a Film
Great list. I *love* Pearl Jam.
 
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The first one you said something about dogs so does that mean it reminds you of one you had?
 
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Hmm I could mention Lynyrd Skynyrd - Simple Man, Police - I'll be missing you. Hmm I am going to keep editing this post, but I hope no teenager commits suicide because of what he hears below:

Westlife - Tonight


Staind - Its Been A While


Dave Matthews - Gravedigger


Thom Yorke - Analyse


Imogen Heap - The Moment I said it


Slovo - Whisper


Sigur Rós-Sæglópur


Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here


REM - Everybody Hurts


Linkin Park - Session


The Beatles - Let it Be


John Mayer - Dreaming With A Broken Heart


Maxwell - This Woman's Work
 
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magpies said:
The first one you said something about dogs so does that mean it reminds you of one you had?
No, songs about animals dying makes me sad.
 
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To me this is about as sad as we get.
The Earth Song, Michael Jackson
 
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I Will Remember You


Angel


I believe some of the songs she wrote/sang were after she lost her mother/got divorced.
 
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The cover by Cash, with the imagery of his wife...

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This song is always sad, but this is heartbreaking:

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Also sad: Danny Boy

The Parting Glass: "Since it fell into my lot, that I should rise and you should not. I gently rise and softly call, Good Night and Joy be to you all."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=<object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/k2lGxGrYz-0&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/k2lGxGrYz-0&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object> The nicest song made heartbreaking. Watch it all, or right to 3:40

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Molly Malone of course:

"In Dublin's fair city
Where girls are so pretty
I first set my eyes on sweet Molly Malone
She wheeled a wheelbarrow
Through streets broad and narrow
Crying, "Cockles and mussels, alive, alive O!"

Alive, alive O...Alive, alive O
Crying, cockles and mussels, alive, alive-O!

She was a fish-monger
And sure 'twas no wonder
For so was her father and mother before.
They wheeled their wheelbarrows
Through streets broad and narrow
Crying, "Cockles and mussels, alive, alive O!"

Alive, alive O...alive, alive O
Crying, cockles and mussels, alive, alive O!

She died of a fever
And no one could save her
And that was the end of sweet Molly Malone.
Now her ghost wheels the barrow
Through streets broad and narrow
Crying, "Cockles and mussels, alive, alive O!"

Alive, alive O...alive, alive O
Crying, cockles and mussels, alive, alive O!"
 
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I thought this song was sad for most my life but now I kinda find it funny.



Go Tom Petty!
 
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Social Distortion - I Was Wrong
 
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Probably one you haven't heard before. "Utah Carol", found this version on youtube.

 
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