What is the meaning behind this joyful Jewish song?

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This forum discussion centers around the emotional impact of sad songs, with participants sharing their favorites and the personal connections they have to them. Key songs mentioned include "Tears in Heaven" by Eric Clapton, "Mad World" by Gary Jules, and "Shannon" by Henry Gross, which is noted for its poignant lyrics about loss. The conversation highlights the therapeutic nature of music in processing grief and nostalgia, with users reflecting on how these songs resonate with their own experiences of sadness and remembrance.

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  • #61
I've always liked this Stevie Wonder tune. But I never considered it to be a "sad song" until I listened to the lyrics.

Stevie Wonder - Yester-Me, Yester-You, Yesterday
 
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  • #62
Cara Dillon - There Will be Roses
 
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  • #63
Beach Boys - Warmth of the Sun

A song about Carl's Irish Setter - Shannon.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70psCljGnXM


What good is the dawn
That grows into day
The sunset at night
Or living this way

For I have the warmth of the sun
(Warmth of the sun)
Within me at night
(Within me at night)

The love of my life
She left me one day
I cried when she said
"I don't feel the same way"
As she swam out to sea

Still I have the warmth of the sun
(Warmth of the sun)
Within me tonight
(Within me tonight)

I'll dream of her paws
And though they're not real
It's like she's still there
The way that I feel

My love's like the warmth of the sun
(Warmth of the sun)
It won't ever die
(It won't ever die)
 
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  • #64
TheStatutoryApe said:
Cara Dillon - There Will be Roses


She's wonderful, I knew it just from looking at her this picture.
 
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  • #65
OK so I am an old geezer. This is Karen Carpenter dubbed over a young Japanese romance. The young man is leaving to become a priest.

 
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  • #66
It's kind of old fashioned, but "I won't send roses" from the musical Mack and Mabel always makes me tear up a little:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuFIzHifuu4&feature=related

I won't send roses
Or hold the door
I won't remember
Which dress you wore

My heart is too much in control
The lack of romance in my soul
Will turn you grey, kid
So stay away, kid

Forget my shoulder
When you're in need
Forgetting birthdays
Is guaranteed

And should I love you, you would be
The last to know
I won't send roses
And roses suit you so
 
  • #67
Math Is Hard said:
It's kind of old fashioned, but "I won't send roses" from the musical Mack and Mabel always makes me tear up a little:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuFIzHifuu4&feature=related

I won't send roses
Or hold the door
I won't remember
Which dress you wore

My heart is too much in control
The lack of romance in my soul
Will turn you grey, kid
So stay away, kid

Forget my shoulder
When you're in need
Forgetting birthdays
Is guaranteed

And should I love you, you would be
The last to know
I won't send roses
And roses suit you so

WOW that was great. I'll take the old fashioned. Back in the "day" a lot of good music came out of plays and movies.
 
  • #68
Without You - Harry Nilsson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERhvqJzmZAY
Originally from Badfinger

So Far Away - Carole King
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CxN9LIPr6Q
 
  • #69
Gordon Lightfoot - The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgI8bta-7aw
 
  • #70
Evo said:
All right all you closet Emos, what are some of your favorite sad songs?

When I found out that this song was about a dog that drowned, it really made me sad. :cry:

.

Kidding aside, I found the story about that song pretty interesting.

Just so you don't miss the connection, http://www.henrygross.com/bio.htm . (You have to scroll down a bit to get to the story of Shannon)
 
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  • #71
This song always makes me cry - especially this part:

"Between the parted pages
And were pressed between love's hot, fevered iron
Like a striped pair of pants"




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHS8hj4TdT8

Incredibly, MIH is in this video. You can see by the colored chairs laughing at the guy doing exercises.
 
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  • #72
Something I find disturbing, yet sad, is Heirate Mich by Rammstein. The general basis of the song is horrible, but when you think about the lyrics it's quite sad, a man losing the love of his life (who also rejected him) and slowly being driven insane from the loss. It also seems to say that he's the only one who even cares she's dead anymore (as I see it).

I won't post the lyrics here, quite inappropriate for a forum. Like I said it's disturbing, yet sad.
 
  • #73
I heard this song today that made me cry! But I don't know the name of it.
 
  • #74
Found it...it's by Westlife and it's called I'm already there. I did not listen to all of it tho. I turned it off at the sunshine in the hair part because I did not feel like being emo -_-
 
  • #75
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx4RsCfL_fA", Sarah's studio version for me, melancholy for the lone traveller far from home.

wiki said:
As McLachlan explained on VH1 Storytellers, the song is about the Smashing Pumpkins touring keyboard player Jonathan Melvoin, who overdosed on heroin and died in 1996. McLachlan explained that there's nothing constant when you are on the road; everything becomes the same.

Lyrics said:
Spend all your time waiting
For that second chance
For a break that would make it okay
There’s always one reason
To feel not good enough
And it’s hard at the end of the day
I need some distraction
Oh beautiful release
Memory seeps from my veins
Let me be empty
And weightless and maybe
I’ll find some peace tonight

In the arms of an angel
Fly away from here
From this dark cold hotel room
And the endlessness that you fear
You are pulled from the wreckage
Of your silent reverie
You’re in the arms of the angel
May you find some comfort there

So tired of the straight line
And everywhere you turn
There’s vultures and thieves at your back
And the storm keeps on twisting
You keep on building the lie
That you make up for all that you lack
It don’t make no difference
Escaping one last time
It’s easier to believe in this sweet madness oh
This glorious sadness that brings me to my knees

In the arms of an angel
Fly away from here
From this dark cold hotel room
And the endlessness that you fear
You are pulled from the wreckage
Of your silent reverie
You’re in the arms of the angel
May you find some comfort there
You’re in the arms of the angel
May you find some comfort here
 
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  • #76
Two songs from Natalie Merchant's TigerLilly album:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaU5Hh-PWCU" a Tribute to River Phoenix, and some angry lash outs at the media pile on after his suicide.
You were one of ours.
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/nataliemerchant/river.html" .

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PtB5_eEpLs"
without my beloved soul
I renounce my life

http://www.lyricsdepot.com/natalie-merchant/beloved-wife.html"
 
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  • #78
DavidSnider said:
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Eric Clapton - Tears in Heaven
Yep, +1. After knowing Clapton's story and becoming a father, stops me cold.
 
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  • #79
Two 1960s tunes:
Who, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9-3RZkzpwM" (pg 444), about a wounded Vietnam Vet returning home, and it fit.

No one knows what it's like To be the bad man
To be the sad man
Behind blue eyes

No one knows what it's like To be hated
To be fated
To telling only lies

But my dreams They aren't as empty
As my conscience seems to be

I have hours, only lonely
My love is vengeance
That's never free
Beatles, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeQGKqDfdU0"
Because its beautiful, because its a goodbye to the 60s, and a goodbye to the Beatles.
 
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  • #80
1860s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30bDcvDqBXY"l, theme for Ken Burn's The Civil War. Song was actually composed in the 20th century, but after Burn's documentary for me it became one and the same with the passing away of early America.
 
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  • #81
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xstLRWHgD2Q

Oh, why you look so sad?
The tears are in your eyes
Come on and come to me now

Don't be ashamed to cry
Let me see you through
'Cause I've seen the dark side too

When the night falls on you
You don't know what to do
Nothing you confess
Could make me love you less

I'll stand by you
I'll stand by you
I won't let nobody hurt you
I'll stand by you

So, if you're mad, get mad!
Don't hold it all inside
Come on and talk to me now

Hey, what you got to hide?
I get angry too
Well I'm a lot like you

When you're standing at the crossroads
And don't know which path to choose
Let me come along
'Cause even if you're wrong

I'll stand by you
I'll stand by you
I won't let nobody hurt you
I'll stand by you

Take me in into your darkest hour
And I'll never desert you
I'll stand by you

And when, when the night falls on you baby
You're feeling all alone
You won't be on your own

I'll stand by you
I'll stand by you
I won't let nobody hurt you
I'll stand by you

Take me in into your darkest hour
And I'll never desert you
I'll stand by you
Oh, I'll stand by you
I'll stand by you
 
  • #82
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFfwR0dJzUw

This song makes me sad.
 
  • #83
As for sad songs, Emiliana Torrini's Gollum song at the end of the Two Towers is my choice:


And another one is "Ue wo muite arukou" by Sakamoto.
Don't let the light tunes deceive you, here's the lyrics about a love gone forever:
I look up when I walk
So the tears won’t fall
Remembering those happy spring days
But tonight I’m all alone
I look up when I walk
Counting the stars with tearful eyes
Remembering those happy summer days
But tonight I’m all alone
Happiness lies beyond the clouds
Happiness lies above the sky
I look up when I walk
So the tears won’t fall
Though my heart is filled with sorrow
For tonight I’m all alone

Remembering those happy autumn days
But tonight I’m all alone
Sadness hides in the shadow of the stars
Sadness lurks in the shadow of the moon
I look up when I walk
So the tears won’t fall
Though my heart is filled with sorrow
For tonight I’m all alone
 
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  • #85
Lamb - Angelica


This thing is stuck in my head now. Soo smooth
 
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  • #87
You can have this heart to break by Billy Joel. My theme song.

Billy Joel

And So It Goes

In every heart there is a room
A sanctuary safe and strong
To heal the wounds from lovers past
Until a new one comes along

I spoke to you in cautious tones
You answered me with no pretense
And still I feel I said too much
My silence is my self defense

And every time I've held a rose
It seems I only felt the thorns
And so it goes, and so it goes
And so will you soon I suppose

But if my silence made you leave
Then that would be my worst mistake
So I will share this room with you
And you can have this heart to break

And this is why my eyes are closed
It's just as well for all I've seen
And so it goes, and so it goes
And you're the only one who knows

So I would choose to be with you
That's if the choice were mine to make
But you can make decisions too
And you can have this heart to break

And so it goes, and so it goes
And you're the only one who knows.


Billy Joel

 
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  • #88
For no one Paul McCartney

 
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  • #89
Evo said:
For no one Paul McCartney



That's one of my favorites.
 
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  • #90
Evo said:
You can have this heart to break by Billy Joel. My theme song.

Billy Joel

And So It Goes
Yep, great one from the Piano Man Evo. From the lyrics I always assumed that the song was about saying goodbye to a spouse, but I don't quite connect the dates. So it Goes washttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_So_It_Goes" , though not released until '90. Joel divorced Elizabeth Small in '82, married Brinkley in '85, divorced her in '94. So best guess is the song was a late goodbye to Small.
 
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