What is the minimum angle for box to start slipping?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a box of textbooks resting on a loading ramp, where the objective is to determine the minimum angle at which the box begins to slip. The context includes concepts of static and kinetic friction, as well as forces acting on the box due to gravity and the ramp's incline.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the minimum angle using the coefficients of friction and the mass of the box. Some participants question the forces acting on the box and the net force just before slipping occurs.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the forces involved and the conditions for slipping. There is an acknowledgment of the need to consider the normal force in the analysis. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being explored, particularly regarding the equations governing the forces.

Contextual Notes

There is a focus on the relationship between the angle of the ramp and the forces acting on the box, with specific attention to the conditions just before slipping begins. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the calculations related to the angle.

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Homework Statement


A box of textbooks of mass 24.0 Kg rests on a loading ramp that makes an angle θ with the horizontal. The coefficient of kinetic friction is 0.25 and the coefficient of static friction is 0.36.

a)As the angle is increased, find the minimum angle at which the box starts to slip
b)At this angle, find the acceleration once the box has begun to move
c)At this angle, how fast will the box be moving after it has slid a distance 4.8 m along the loading ramp?

Homework Equations


f=un
n=mgcosθ

The Attempt at a Solution


a)fs=usn=ma=0
usmgcosθ=0
θ=cos-1(-umg)
θ=cos-1(-0.36*24*9.8)
θ=cos^-1(-84.67)
This is pretty much the only question I'm having trouble with, b and c I can figure out once I find θ. As always any help is much appreciated.
 
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What forces act on the box? Just before it starts to slip, what's the net force on the box?
 
the forces that act on the box are fg and fs and the net force will be zero just before it starts so.
-mg+usmgcosθ=0
θ=cos-1(mg/umg)
 
anubis01 said:
the forces that act on the box are fg and fs and the net force will be zero just before it starts so.
Good. (But don't forget the normal force.)
-mg+usmgcosθ=0
Weight acts vertically; friction acts parallel to the incline. To combine forces in an equation, take components parallel to the incline.
 

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