What is the Minkowski metric tensor's trace?

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The discussion centers on the trace of the Minkowski metric tensor, specifically exploring the process of raising indices and contracting them within the context of Minkowski space. Participants engage with the mathematical details and notation involved in this process.

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  • One participant expresses confusion about contracting indices in the context of the Minkowski metric tensor and questions how to reduce it to the Kronecker delta.
  • Another participant clarifies that if ##g_{\mu\nu}## is the metric tensor, then the inverse metric is ##g^{\mu\nu}##, and they note the common notation of using ##\eta_{\mu\nu}## for flat space metrics.
  • There is a suggestion that the process of raising an index and contracting it leads to the expression ##g^{\rho\mu}g_{\mu\nu} = \delta^\rho_\nu##, which can be summed over indices.
  • Two participants reference Carroll's textbook "Spacetime and Gravitation," indicating that it discusses the trace and suggesting that the trace is four, although this is not universally agreed upon in the thread.

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While some participants agree on the trace being four as stated in Carroll's textbook, there is no consensus on the method of contracting indices or the implications of using different notations for the metric tensor.

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Participants do not fully resolve the assumptions regarding the notation and the steps involved in the contraction process, leaving some mathematical details and definitions open to interpretation.

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I would appreciate if you explain to me how to get the Minkowski metric tensor's trace.
I am trying to follow the rule, that is, raising an index and the contract it.
Be ##g_{\mu v}## the metric tensor in Minkowski space.
Raising ##n^{v \mu}g_{\mu v}## and then, we need now to contract it.
Now, in this step i smell a rat (i learned this pun today, hope this mean what i think this means haha)
Can i simply say that ##\mu## is an index using Einstein notation? I am a little confused how to contract this and then reduced it to delta kronecker, which, in the end, will give us the trace equal four.
 
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Be ##g_{\mu v}## the metric tensor in Minkowski space.
Raising ##n^{v \mu}g_{\mu v}## and then, we need now to contract it.
If ##g_{\mu\nu}## is the metric then the inverse metric should be ##g^{\mu\nu}##. If you are meaning the metric of flat space, typically that's denoted ##\eta_{\mu\nu}## and the inverse would be denoted ##\eta^{\mu\nu}##. There's nothing wrong with using ##g## instead of ##\eta##, but you need to use it consistently.

Apart from that, what you've written seems fine. If you want to think of it in several stages, first you would use ##g^{\rho\mu}## to raise an index, giving you ##g^{\rho\mu}g_{\mu\nu}##, which is indeed ##\delta^\rho_\nu##. Then you can contract over the upper and lower indices - i.e. you needed to set ##\rho=\nu##, which (give or take using ##g## or ##\eta##) is what you wrote. Writing the sums explicitly (so no summation convention implied) it's ##\sum_{\mu=0}^4\sum_{\nu=0}^4g^{\mu\nu}g_{\mu\nu}##.
 
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Carroll's textbook Spacetime and Gravitation discusses it, I think it is in the first chapter.
 
Carroll's textbook Spacetime and Gravitation discusses it, I think it is in the first chapter. And the solution is as you wrote the trace is four. Page 28 in Carroll's textbook
 

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