What is the moment of inertia of a sphere?

[Oerg]

Homework Statement

Ok, so i was trying to derive the moment of inertia about an axis that runs through the centre of mass of the sphere and i couldn't get the answer of I_{CM}=\frac{2}{5}MR^2

The Attempt at a Solution

The moment of inertia is defined as

\int r^2dm

and since

dm=\rho \times 4\pi r^2\times dr

so

I_{CM}=\int_{0}^{R}4\rho r^4 \pi dr
I_{CM}=\frac{4\rho\pi R^5}{5}

and expanding rho gives

I_{CM}=\frac{3}{5}R^2M

which is not correct.

 

[mjsd]

the typical way to derive the moment of inertia of a sphere is to use the result for the moment of inertia of a thin disk (axis through center). The sphere is just a collection of thin disks with different radius...

 

[Oerg]

Hmm, then is there something wrong with my working? I would like to know in case I have some conceptual misunderstanding.

 

[mjsd]

looks like you were trying to add up contribution from many many thin spherical shell (of radius r) but u haven't used the moment of inertia for shell. remember the "r^2" in the moment of inertia formula represents the perpendicular distance from axis of rotation to the point mass with mass m

personally, i would do this problem by
first MoI of thin hood
then MoI of thin disk
then MoI of sphere

or the hood->shell->sphere path

 

[Oerg]

oh man pelase help me I am going crazy

so i decided to try solving using the disk method

\int r^2 dm

so

dm= \rho \times \pi r^2 \times dr

and

I_{CM}=\int_{0}^{R} \frac{M}{V} \pi r^4 dr

and the moment of inertia of half a sphere is then

I_{CM}\frac{=3MR^2}{20}

and this moment of inertia of half a sphere obviously doesn't give the moment of inertia of a sphere HELP!

 

[mjsd]

Assuming you know how to derive the disk, let's use that result

here I sliced the sphere into many disks with different radius

see attachment

 

[rock.freak667]

I found another post here on how to derive it but it is suggested that you try it yourself a bunch of times...

 

[D H]

\int r^2 dm

This r refers to the distance from the rotational axis ...

dm= \rho \times \pi r^2 \times dr

and this r refers to the distance from the center of the sphere. You got an erroneous result by erroneously equating two very different measures that happen to have the same symbol.

 

[D H]

Rather than integrating over a series of spherical shells I suggest you look at integrating over a series of cylindrical shells. The height (and hence mass) of these shells will vary with the radial distance from the axis of rotation. It will help to remember the formula for the length of a chord length of a circle as a function of the radius and chord angle ...

 

[Gear300]

The dm=\rho \times 4\pi r^2\times dr doesn't work. If you were to cut the sphere in half and try to straighten out one of the halves, it won't work out too well and that's probably the source of the mistake.

 

[Oerg]

thanks for the replies, i finally figured how to derive it on my own. The moment of inertia of a disk is

I_{CM}=\int_{0}^{R} r^2 \times \rho \times 2 \pi r \times dr

I_{CM}=\frac{MR^2}{2}

Integrating these differential moment of inertia gives us the moment of inertia of a sphere
dI=\frac{r^2}{2} dm

dm=\rho \times \pi r^2 \times dz

So the integral becomes

I=\int_{-R}^{ R} \frac{\rho \pi}{2} (R^2-z^2)^2dz

I=\frac{2}{5} MR^2