What is the most incompressible elastomer?

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The discussion focuses on the search for commercially available elastomers that exhibit exceptional incompressibility, specifically those with a Poisson ratio (ν) approaching 0.5. The user aims to utilize a thin disk-shaped rubber pad to achieve a joint that is stiff axially while remaining compliant tangentially, leveraging the relationship between axial stiffness and Poisson ratio as described in the referenced equations. Finite-element simulations have confirmed the trend, indicating that the closer ν is to 0.5, the better the performance. The user also considers wires as a backup solution if the rubber pads do not meet the required performance criteria.

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Hi all!

Usually, one would model a rubber as incompressible (##\nu \rightarrow \infty## or equivalently ##\kappa \rightarrow \infty##, where ##\nu## is Poisson ratio and ##\kappa## is bulk compressibility). However, I am trying to use rubber in an application where performance will improve the closer ##\nu## gets to 0.5. Are there any commercially available elastomers that are exceptionally incompressible (better than other elastomers)? (I know that relying on consistent material properties from something like rubber is generally a bad idea, but if this works it would be very convenient.)

For background, the reason I am doing this is to achieve a joint that is stiff axially and compliant tangentially. My thought was to use a thin disk-shaped pad of rubber. According to this reference (publisher link, open-access link), the axial stiffness of a thin cylindrical pad of rubber should scale like ##\frac{1}{1-2\nu}##, which will tend towards infinity as ##\nu \rightarrow 0.5##. In contrast, the transverse stiffness does not scale like this and does not explode as ##\nu \rightarrow \infty##. (See equations 3-3a (axial) and 3-3c (shear) in the linked reference for the exact formulae.) I've verified this trend with finite-element simulations (at least using a linear elastic material model, still working on a hyperelastic material model). But, this only works if the rubber's Poisson ratio is very close to 0.5 (the closer, the better). Hence my question above.

I realize that wires satisfy the same criteria above (stiff axially, compliant tangentially). But the rubber pads would be much simpler to implement in my application. Wires are my plan B if this rubber pad idea doesn't pan out.

Thanks in advance for your input!
 
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Twigg said:
For background, the reason I am doing this is to achieve a joint that is stiff axially and compliant tangentially.
Hanging a mass from a support, using a flexible metal tape that is clamped at the ends, allows movement in one direction. One or two twisted tapes will give you two directions of freedom.
 
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Baluncore said:
Hanging a mass from a support, using a flexible metal tape that is clamped at the ends, allows movement in one direction. One or two twisted tapes will give you two directions of freedom.
I think this is similar to my plan B of using a wire to suspend the mass. I agree this is definitely a cleaner way of getting the desired constraint. However, the rubber pads (if they work) would significantly simplify the assembly because I wouldn't need to add features to anchor the the wires or tapes to. (If this is a silly endeavour and I should give up and settle on wires/tapes, just let me know. Thanks!)
 

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