What is the origin of the binomial coefficient formula equality?

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The discussion revolves around the origin and understanding of the binomial coefficient formula, specifically the equality involving the expressions for {n \choose k} and its equivalent forms. Participants are exploring the definitions and derivations related to factorials and combinations.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to understand how the expression {n \choose k} relates to the factorial representation \frac{n!}{k!(n-k)!}. Questions are raised about the notation and the reasoning behind the factorial expansion.

Discussion Status

Some participants express understanding of parts of the derivation but seek further clarification on specific notations and the reasoning behind the factorial representation. There is an ongoing exploration of definitions and expressions without a clear consensus on all points raised.

Contextual Notes

There is a note that {n \choose k} is not simply equal to \frac{n!}{k!}, indicating a need for careful consideration of definitions and the context in which these expressions are used.

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How is possible this equality:

[tex]{n \choose k} = \frac{n \cdot (n-1) \cdots (n-k+1)}{k(k-1)...1} = \frac{n!}{k!(n-k)!}[/tex]

? I mean where the second part [tex]\frac{n!}{k!(n-k)!}[/tex] comes from?

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[tex]n! = n \cdot (n-1) \cdot (n-2) \cdot \cdot \cdot (n-k-1) \cdot (n-k-2) \cdot \cdot \cdot 3 \cdot 2 \cdot 1 = n \cdot (n-1) \cdot (n-2) \cdot \cdot \cdot (n-(k-1)) \cdot (n-k)![/tex]

[tex]k! = k \cdot (k-1) \cdot (k-2) \cdot \cdot \cdot 2 \cdot 1[/tex]


So we get:

[tex]\frac{n!}{(n-k)!} = n \cdot (n-1) \cdot \cdot \cdot n-k+1[/tex]
 
multiply the first bit by (n-k)!/(n-k)! :smile:
 
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Ok, I understand about:

[tex] \frac{n!}{(n-k)!} = n \cdot (n-1) \cdot \cdot \cdot n-k+1 [/tex]
But still I can't understand why n! is written like that..
 
Physicsissuef said:
Ok, I understand about:

[tex] \frac{n!}{(n-k)!} = n \cdot (n-1) \cdot \cdot \cdot n-k+1 [/tex]
But still I can't understand why n! is written like that..

Note that:

[tex]{n \choose k} \neq \frac{n!}{k!}[/tex]

The definition is the one in your first post.
 
Physicsissuef said:
Ok, I understand about:

[tex] \frac{n!}{(n-k)!} = n \cdot (n-1) \cdot \cdot \cdot n-k+1 [/tex]
But still I can't understand why n! is written like that..
Written like what?

You started by saying that you understand that
[tex]{n \choose k} = \frac{n \cdot (n-1) \cdots (n-k+1)}{k(k-1)...1}[/tex]
but did not understand why
[tex]\frac{n \cdot (n-1) \cdots (n-k+1)}{k(k-1)...1}= \frac{n!}{k!(n-k)!}[/tex]
That is what was just explained. It is written "that way" in order to give a simple closed form expression to
[tex]\frac{n \cdot (n-1) \cdots (n-k+1)}{k(k-1)...1}[/tex]
"without the dots".
 

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